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Old 12-28-2008, 08:44 PM   #1
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50nl video I 3 bet alot...

6 tabling 50nl I 3 bet some regs, spew some money.

Ignore the chip sound please.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VVKCAUGO

DISCLAIMER IM BAD HELP ME WITH MY GAME =P

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Old 12-28-2008, 08:50 PM   #2
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:59 PM   #3
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:04 PM   #4
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gonna watch it tomorrow... probably
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:20 PM   #5
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:29 PM   #6
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gonna dl this mofo!
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:41 PM   #7
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

Wheeeeeeeeee

Vid time!

D/L now.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:44 PM   #8
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:57 PM   #9
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

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Old 12-28-2008, 10:16 PM   #10
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mine's at 33% after 1h and 25 min
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:27 PM   #11
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mine's at 33% after 1h and 25 min
its only 200 mgs...i tried to make is very small but i wanted good quality u know?

Also i forgot to mention i know the AJ was a b/f on the turn i even say it in the vid ~.~!
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:29 PM   #12
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

lol i had it dl'ed in about 3 mins... love GT internet...

anyway's i'm about halfway through the video.

One thing I've noticed is that you cbet way to small, way too often. Half pot is ok for paired boards, or 3b pots... but raisng T3o in the CO and then betting less than half pot on a very dry, low board is just going to get you floated a ton by low-mid pp's, and even Ax hands from donks who don't like folding.
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:47 PM   #13
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

Tyvm, sir.

Obv take it with a grain of salt as I only started playing 25NL at this point.

But I'm not sure if stealing close to 100% is optimal. I mean, 96o or 74s from CO is ok, we can sometimes flop a well-disguised hand. But T3o from CO or 32o from BTN, that's just utter trash. This can only be justified if blinds' Fold to 3bet stat is *really* big imo (I don't remember what the actual stats were).
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:51 PM   #14
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Tyvm, sir.

Obv take it with a grain of salt as I only started playing 25NL at this point.

But I'm not sure if stealing close to 100% is optimal. I mean, 96o or 74s from CO is ok, we can sometimes flop a well-disguised hand. But T3o from CO or 32o from BTN, that's just utter trash. This can only be justified if blinds' Fold to 3bet stat is *really* big imo (I don't remember what the actual stats were).
A minraise steal from the button only has to work about 57% of the time to show an instant profit, and that's before factoring in the fact we'll have position and the initiative postflop.

Even if we're stealing 100% of the time from the button it's going to still be more profitable than stealing less often, unless villains adjust a ton.
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:53 PM   #15
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

stealing a lot from LP is fine if players stats indicate players are nitty...

just finished the video... not too much interesting stuff really came up. I don't think we actually go to see you play a 3b pot postflop, but that just doesn't happen to much at 50nl.

Something I saw is that you might be cbetting too much. The only hand I don't remember you cbetting was 93o on a T67 flop, which actually would have been a decent spot to cbet, as it misses a good deal of his range + we have str8 draw.

However, cbetting on super wet boards like QJx twotone or J87 w/ air is just burning money, especially against villains who have ranges that we really can't narrow.

Try and play more str8forward against your high vpip players (hint: these are the guys that are check minraising you a ton and pissing you off in the vid).
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:04 PM   #16
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

Saying I should move up where they respect my raises... I hope you were joking.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:07 PM   #17
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

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Old 12-28-2008, 11:10 PM   #18
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Saying I should move up where they respect my raises... I hope you were joking.
yeh i was trying to be funny
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:14 PM   #19
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stealing a lot from LP is fine if players stats indicate players are nitty...

just finished the video... not too much interesting stuff really came up. I don't think we actually go to see you play a 3b pot postflop, but that just doesn't happen to much at 50nl.

Something I saw is that you might be cbetting too much. The only hand I don't remember you cbetting was 93o on a T67 flop, which actually would have been a decent spot to cbet, as it misses a good deal of his range + we have str8 draw.

However, cbetting on super wet boards like QJx twotone or J87 w/ air is just burning money, especially against villains who have ranges that we really can't narrow.

Try and play more str8forward against your high vpip players (hint: these are the guys that are check minraising you a ton and pissing you off in the vid).
WOW thanks for the feed back, yeah i know not alot of intresting spots but you know when your grinding intresting spots dont come up that often. I just wanted to post a video of how i grind and see what some of my leaks were you know?
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:24 PM   #20
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

lol the hand with the fish who calls with KJ a 922 flop was funny...LOOOOL
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:12 AM   #21
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

5:46 on Table 2

AdQd, you open to 4BB and called from a full stack in the blinds

Jc 8s 7s flop I agree that checking behind is better

Turn is the 8h and he checks again, and usually this second check is more honest than the first (since he might be expecting a cbet) so I like to bet/fold here for $2.50. On the river, I really think this bet is total BS (really, wtf does the 5 do?) and if I didn't think villain could hand read, I'd pop him to $7.50. He could also easily have missed spades here or some other crap with no SD value...I'm not saying you should always call the river with A-high, but this looks like an okay spot to do it.

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Old 12-29-2008, 12:17 AM   #22
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

At the 13 minute mark, you fold T9s in the SB even though there was no raise in front of you. Flop then came J87, which looks a lot like the nuts to me. I think you might have been distracted opening up some new tables there.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:32 AM   #23
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

BTW, how do you NOT use a four-color deck?
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:38 AM   #24
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Re: 50nl video I 3 bet alot...

rly im playing now ill relook at the vid yeh i tend to get distract...
oh ok yeh should have completed also what do u guys think of the A5s hand?

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Old 12-29-2008, 12:59 AM   #25
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At the 13 minute mark, you fold T9s in the SB even though there was no raise in front of you. Flop then came J87, which looks a lot like the nuts to me. I think you might have been distracted opening up some new tables there.
I just came from watching the vid to post that. 2 limpers, and you fold the SB with T9s?? Isn't that a call 100% of the time?
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