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3bet + cbet bluff did not work.  Do we bluff this river? 3bet + cbet bluff did not work.  Do we bluff this river?

09-07-2018 , 07:33 PM
UTG+1: 96 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
MP: 91.6 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 3.03, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
MP+1: 114.48 BB (VPIP: 15.63, PFR: 9.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 64)
Hero (CO): 101.72 BB
BTN: 208.76 BB (VPIP: 32.18, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 88)
SB: 29.4 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 129.12 BB (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 35.29, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 17)
UTG: 203.32 BB (VPIP: 14.61, PFR: 4.49, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 89)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3.4 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 8.6 BB

Flop: (25.4 BB, 2 players) 8 7 8
MP+1 checks, Hero bets 12 BB, MP+1 calls 12 BB

Turn: (49.4 BB, 2 players) 6
MP+1 checks, Hero checks

River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) A
MP+1 checks, [color=red]



My note on V is "will bluff". 2 auto notes from PT are, "Calls wide from BB" and "3bet OP w/ A9s"

Post flop call, put V on a lot of middling pair type hands. Maybe AK/AQ, but I do block those. River helps eliminate a ton of his flush combos. Don't think he's calling a 3bet OP often with broadway. He can be aggressive, but his VPIP was not particularly high.

If think we should stab here, what bet amount?
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09-19-2018 , 06:11 PM
interesting board. i think i’m checking back here. what hands are villain check folding on the river that you don’t beat? would villain fold 99,TT, JJ? if villain floated with overcards it’s most likely an ace that’s check calling a river bet when it comes. since i don’t see villain folding those 3 pocket pairs with this action and run out, and since the ace comes, you’re not often getting a fold from better than king high.

IF WE BLUFF: a bluff here would probably be a very high variance spot and you’d probably need to overbet to make it profitable for the small amount of time that villain folds better hands. 1.5x pot MAY fold those pocket pairs without a diamond or an ace without a diamond for fear of the flush.

i think the better option is to fire a second barrel on the turn to charge his draws and you’d be able to extract more value when the flush & straight draws don’t come in, and may be able to more effectively bluff rivers since you’ve shown aggression on both of the past streets. he’s probably more confident with his pocket pairs after the turn check IMO.

would be interested in hearing others thoughts!
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09-20-2018 , 07:17 AM
im not entire sure if i will cbet, because wich range he has?.

78s is the bottom of his range, then 66+, a5s+ (maybe), idk i think hits more his range then yours.

im maybe cbetting flop and giving up turn, if he checks turn im bombing when the A come.
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09-20-2018 , 09:46 AM
^I think your giving this V way to wide of a range given his low VPIP and the fact that he his OP.
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09-21-2018 , 06:44 AM
okey, we give him a tight range then. 99+ AQs+

he is not folding. on that flop.

with more reason if he is a tight play why you use KQo to 3bet him if he is or on ep.
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09-25-2018 , 05:52 PM
I don't know if I like 3-betting this CO vs HJ vs a tight player, doesn't really show aggression stats, but I guess it can be marginally OK if he is check folding a lot to barrels. I like to pick on weakness a lot more, like someone raising way too much up front, or BU vs CO against a loose regular steal-raiser, but KQo is very marginal against a tight opening range, and he is opening HJ, not CO or BU. On this board, I don't think I like barreling off with this hand, either. We can choose better double / triple hands. On this board, with this runout, we really don't pick up any equity on turn, I am probably giving up after the flop defend. Yes, we have position, and pot is building with dead money, but we have a really poor hand to continue firing.

your notes also don't really indicate anything out of the ordinary haha
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10-12-2018 , 01:00 PM
Your hand looks a lot like Ak/AQ, his hand looks a lot like a single pair, if you feel he is a good player, bet 3/4 pot and he should fold enough to make it profitable. If you feel he is a bad player check it back and move on.
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