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Old 05-25-2020, 10:13 PM   #1
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2NL - TPTK facing check-raise on the flop

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 90 BB
SB: 83.5 BB
BB: 150 BB
UTG: 98 BB
Hero (MP): 198.5 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) K 4 T
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 9 BB, SB calls 9 BB, UTG raises to 29 BB, Hero ?

I had 47 hands on the Villain, VPIP 50, PFR 4. The obvious hands are sets. I thought 44 was def in his range, 1010 i thought was more likely to have raised pre. Plenty of weaker kings in his PF calling range, but how many of those C-R flop? Plenty of draws and a player behind. Is bet-folding here too weak? What's our plan moving forward if we continue?
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Old 05-26-2020, 05:36 PM   #2
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Re: 2NL - TPTK facing check-raise on the flop

Looks like villain is a loose passive player and raising in those stakes into multiple players usually means they have it. This could be a exploitative fold
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Old 05-27-2020, 07:28 AM   #3
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Re: 2NL - TPTK facing check-raise on the flop

With those stats KT offsuit and K4 (probs suited) are in there as well
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:52 AM   #4
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Re: 2NL - TPTK facing check-raise on the flop

A comment in the abstract:

You can beat 2NL at a decent clip when you always give villain credit when they make a big raise postflop. While you could increase your win rate by bluff-catching in certain spots (this not necessarily being one of them), I think to be solid at 2NL you just need to (i) play tight pre, (ii) valuetown ad infinitum, and (iii) don't pay them off when they make sizable raises or river bets post.

As for the posted hand:

You showed significant strength by making such a large cbet multiway. That cbet then got called by one player and yet a generally passive third player makes a sizable raise. Fold.

I think 2NL players are erratic. You may occasionally see KQ, AK, or even QQ here. But it's rare. He can show up with all the two pairs (except T4o which is unlikely), all sets, and possibly even a misplayed AA. IMO, this is unlikely to be something like AdJd, AdQd, QdJd, or Jd9d. A 50/4 will generally not understand the equity those hands tend to have and won't understand fold equity, either. Hence, he will likely play those combo draws passively in a mw situation.
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