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2NL - Should KK fold here UTG + 1 vs UTG? 2NL - Should KK fold here UTG + 1 vs UTG?

11-13-2017 , 09:33 PM
Hi all

I'm new to the forum so hope this is legible This seems like a rare spot where it might be ok to fold KK. Not sure my flat to the four-bet is correct. Villain seems like a tight 2NL reg and my UTG+1 3 bet range is so small. (I presume he has a HUD and can see I'm playing VPIP20 and PFR 12.)

Would appreciate any advice from experienced players.

888 Poker - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 60 BB (VPIP: 14.12, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
MP+1: 107.2 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 40 BB (VPIP: 5.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BTN: 181.2 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 27)
SB: 108.8 BB (VPIP: 20.39, PFR: 14.56, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 104)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 154.8 BB (VPIP: 15.66, PFR: 12.05, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 166)
Hero (UTG+1): 350.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K K

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 27 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

Flop: (55.4 BB, 2 players) T T 7
UTG bets 41.4 BB, Hero calls 41.4 BB

Turn: (138.2 BB, 2 players) 6
UTG bets 86.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 86.4 BB

River: (311 BB, 2 players) 3
2NL - Should KK fold here UTG + 1 vs UTG? Quote
11-14-2017 , 03:30 AM
you have odds to setmine kk so flat is ok. Fold flop, you beat nothing and hes not bluffing
2NL - Should KK fold here UTG + 1 vs UTG? Quote
11-14-2017 , 08:31 AM
I don't think I'm ever folding flop otherwise what do we defend with?
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11-15-2017 , 07:41 AM
Thank you guys.

My value range for 3betting UTG+1 against this guy is basically QQ+ and AK.

When he fourbet, I felt like he had AA or just possibly the other one combo of KK. Against this very tight villain he probably flats AK. So maybe discount AK from 8 remaining combos to 2 or something.

I find it hard to fold on the flop here against most players as they could have AK and be trying to push another AK out.

The turn should definitely be a fold. I made a kind of crying call feeling like I was always seeing aces.

Thanks pokerforumposter. That sounds good advice at these stakes, where people seem to play pretty straightforward.
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