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Old 06-22-2017, 05:00 PM   #1
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2NL - am I calling too much?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
BTN: 135.5 BB (VPIP: 15.87, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 63)
SB: 213.5 BB (VPIP: 27.91, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 43)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 151.5 BB (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 34)
Hero (UTG+1): 100 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 13 BB, fold, Hero calls 9 BB

Flop: (27 BB, 2 players) 5 4 5
SB bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn: (53 BB, 2 players) K
SB bets 25.5 BB, Hero calls 25.5 BB

River: (104 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 50.5 BB, Hero calls 48.5 BB and is all-in

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His betting just looked really weird, like he didn't have it ...
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Old 06-23-2017, 01:39 AM   #2
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Re: 2NL - am I calling too much?

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His betting just looked really weird, like he didn't have it ...
What exactly is weird about it? Looks pretty much how any standard reg would bet AK+ here to me.
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:12 AM   #3
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Re: 2NL - am I calling too much?

From my experience in 2NL, not many players will bluff 3 streets.. Villain almost always has top pair here and possibly an over pair or QQ (since 3bet pre)
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:17 AM   #4
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What exactly is weird about it? Looks pretty much how any standard reg would bet AK+ here to me.
SB: 213.5 BB (VPIP: 27.91, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 43)
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:37 AM   #5
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SB: 213.5 BB (VPIP: 27.91, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 43)
Well, yes he seems fairly aggressive from this small sample and that's an argument in favour of bluff catching. What I meant was that his line seems perfectly consistent with value hands too.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:23 AM   #6
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Well, yes he seems fairly aggressive from this small sample and that's an argument in favour of bluff catching. What I meant was that his line seems perfectly consistent with value hands too.
If his stats were 80/80/90 that would still be true, yet I'd be calling him down with pretty much anything.

To me his actual stats felt like he'd be bluffing way too much here.
But obviously I could be wrong.
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Old 06-23-2017, 01:03 PM   #7
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If his stats were 80/80/90 that would still be true, yet I'd be calling him down with pretty much anything.

To me his actual stats felt like he'd be bluffing way too much here.
But obviously I could be wrong.
You've got this exactly backwards.
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Old 06-23-2017, 02:51 PM   #8
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Re: 2NL - am I calling too much?

As an exercise work out what hands you would call 3 bet with, call the flop, turn and river bet with and what % hands of previous street each time you're calling with. This should tell you if you're calling too much.

If you think villain would always check the river with a king then I'd get behind a bluff catch, preferably when you have a heart in your hand though. The river is a scare card and should warrant a lot of checking from villain but weak players are sometimes too scared to check with weak value. You could be owned by an overplayed KJ etc.
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