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2nd nut flush vs shove 2nd nut flush vs shove

09-13-2020 , 10:50 AM
1 BB is worth approximately 0.0001$ US. 7 players in table. Players often limp pf and usually most fold when i raise.

SB is a 27/8 (VPIP/PFR)

Stacks:

BTN (Hero): 251 BB
SB: 99 BB

BTN is dealt K9

1 limp, BTN raises to 4.9 BB, SB reraise to 8.8 BB, 2 folds, BTN calls

Flop (19.6 BB): 283

SB bets 10 BB, BTN calls

Turn (39.5 BB): 4

SB shoves 80 BB, BTN calls.

Preflop i think i played it pretty standard.
I'm not sure if my call on flop is correct here, as it doesn't give great odds for a flush and not sure how often i'll be paid off when i hit the flush. In the turn his shove is strange not sure if my call is correct when i'm getting roughly 1.5:1 odds, he might have quite some Ax's here.
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09-14-2020 , 01:34 AM
SB's shove looks super strong I'm not sure he would even be doing that with a set I might hate life and sigh fold on the turn here with a good enough read.

Remember this is the micros 99% of the time when passive fishy type players do this its the nuts.
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09-14-2020 , 02:43 PM
Sorry you lost, but never ever folding. This is basically play money poker and we have the 2nd nuts!

If you want some real analysis: why would some 27/8 fairly passive random make a trappy preflop 3bet with Ax ? Seems unlikely to me. I'd weight his range heavily towards overpairs.
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09-14-2020 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Useful_Idiot
Sorry you lost, but never ever folding. This is basically play money poker and we have the 2nd nuts!

If you want some real analysis: why would some 27/8 fairly passive random make a trappy preflop 3bet with Ax ? Seems unlikely to me. I'd weight his range heavily towards overpairs.
Who said i lost? I purposefully ommited the result not to bias who replies to this thread. He had AA without diamonds.
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09-21-2020 , 02:33 PM
Why would you even bother to call the flop if you’re going to fold to a turn shove when you actually hit your flush? If you can’t find a call on this turn, don’t bother drawing to the flush in the first place — you got the card you wanted; you can’t quit now.

Yes, sometimes you’ll lose in spots like this. However V’s range likely includes overpairs as well as lower flushes. Pokerchrisuk is right—passive micro players rarely will play this strongly without some big hand. However they often have trouble with adjusting to changes in their hand value due to the run out. AA is obviously strong PF. For many micro players that means it’s strong no matter what the run out is. Obviously it’s much less valuable on this board, but many players will continue to play it as if it’s just as strong as PF.

This type of player also is often guilty of over focusing on his own hand and not considering what you might have. He might look at Qx diamonds here and think “I have the flush — shove!”. Of course he could just as easily have Axd and have the nuts, but I think you’re definitely ahead of his range here.
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10-03-2020 , 02:07 AM
Due to the stats villain doesn't look like 3bet-happy/TAG/LAG but more like tight raiser and loose caller. Depends on how many hands you've stored of him. I suppose his 3bet range will be something like TT+, AK or sometimes fishes love to raise suited random cards. His half pot cbet could be anything depending on villains cbet patterns. But his turn shove changes his range significantly. You will rarely have pure bluffs here and nut flushes will be checked more often than played like villain did. I suppose his range here is AA, KK, AK and sometimes weaker pockets like QQ and JJ with a diamond and very very rarely a flush. Folding is out of question your range advantage is obvious. Sorry for my bad english.

Greetings
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