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25NL QQ bluffcatching? 25NL QQ bluffcatching?

05-21-2018 , 08:04 AM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 69.52 BB (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 16.31, 3Bet Preflop: 9.47, Hands: 486)
BTN: 53.72 BB (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 205.6 BB (VPIP: 27.26, PFR: 21.51, 3Bet Preflop: 10.51, Hands: 629)
Hero (UTG): 289.12 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to 2.52 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.52 BB, fold, BB calls 1.52 BB

Flop: (7.96 BB, 3 players) 2 5 9
BB checks, Hero bets 4.4 BB, fold, BB calls 4.4 BB

Turn: (16.76 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (16.76 BB, 2 players) 4
BB bets 15 BB, Hero?
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05-22-2018 , 01:26 PM
Interesting spot.

What do we think villain could be bluffing the river here with that we beat? When BTN flats, the BB is incentivised to open up his flatting range even more, so wouldn't be surprised to see us call here and lose to 9x, A3 or a flush.

That said, if he recognises some weakness in you (from the turn check back) then perhaps if he holds the Ac, he's willing to take a stab at this, and rightly so. It makes it really tricky, considering how wide his range is going to be from the BB.

I think it's villain dependent whether we call or not here. Has he taken this line before?
What's he showndown? I'd probably flip a coin as to whether I did call or not in this exact spot.
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05-22-2018 , 07:14 PM
I'm not exactly sure how this spot is that tricky, for the same reasons as mentioned before we can assume villain on bb is flatting wider as he was incentivized by the btn flat, that being said we are pretty high up in our range and we under repped our hand checking turn, which i think a lot of the time we want to be barreling it but pot control is okay to a certain extent.

for those reasons and without reads on bb being passive overall i think this is a call as for value he only has flopped flushes, which are tough, 2 pairs which we beat now if he had 52 , 54 if he bluffs it , 22 and 55 we lose to he does flat on bb this same way but like before we are too high in range + underrepped on turn + Acxo will look to rep the 9x as we checked turn, lean a lot more towards a call rather than a fold.
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05-24-2018 , 02:16 PM
Turn

I could see betting for thin value from hands with one club like 7c7s or Ac2s, but I think checking behind is probably the better play, especially if you think Villain is the type to check-raise those hands.

River

I don't see any hands you beat that Villain could be attempting to bet for value. The only candidates I see are JJ and TT, but that's really stretching it, I think. So I think your QQ becomes a bluff catcher.

Which means the question becomes what bluffs does Villain have. Turning one club hands into a bluff would make sense. But I also think Villain would probably play his value hands like flushes and trips the same way (I'm thinking Villain could see trips as value once you check the turn).

You've got 2:1 pot odds, and thus only need to win 1/3 of the time. The way I see it, if Villain is capable of bluffing, he'll probably be doing it at a 2:1 value-to-bluff ratio, and so best case scenario it's a break-even spot. But if Villain isn't capable of making these bluffs, you're crushed. And so I would say it's a fold.
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05-25-2018 , 10:04 PM
I think a call is right. Against a loose and aggressive player, there is a lot of trash in his range. Especially after your check on the turn. You kept the pot small and you're getting better than 2:1 odds.
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05-26-2018 , 07:51 AM
After betting flop T is a check with this combo almost 100% of the time I think and then if this is your strategy R is a call almost 100%.

I think you can throw in some check backs on the flop too, wait for the board to favour us a bit more before building the pot.
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