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Old 07-27-2013, 07:22 PM   #1
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25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

Villian is a super grinder at 25 / 50nl zoom on stars from south korea, he probably plays 250-300k hands a month, he is quite taggy(13/11 85 fold to 3bet). We have tons of history, but nothing super spewy.

Is this ok?

Im 15/12 3% 3bet tag fyi


    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18631291

    BTN: $12.23 (48.9 bb)
    Hero (SB): $30.72 (122.9 bb)
    BB: $15.43 (61.7 bb)
    UTG+1: $31.68 (126.7 bb)
    UTG+2: $32.84 (131.4 bb)
    MP1: $33.93 (135.7 bb)
    MP2: $24.30 (97.2 bb)
    MP3: $12.50 (50 bb)
    CO: $42.91 (171.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
    UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 4 folds, CO calls $0.75, BTN folds, Hero raises to $3.10, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $2.35, CO folds

    Flop: ($7.20) J T 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

    Turn: ($14.70) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $7.50, Hero folds

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    Old 07-27-2013, 08:00 PM   #2
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    need to post co stats
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    Old 07-27-2013, 08:04 PM   #3
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    Some random fish that I had like 15 hands on, forget the stats
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    Old 07-27-2013, 08:35 PM   #4
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    i feel confused ;e
    but he opens from utg+1 so i think his hand would be pretty good like JJ + AKs and that call since he has 85% fold to 3bet;
    i will not believe that he bluffs on the spot + the board is too wet and he might be afraid if he has AA or KK and he cant play them like check/call anymore so he leads out;
    i would give him credit because of the fold to 3bet % and the lead out on the wet board
    btw you said you have a lot of history with him so check your fold to 4bet because if you have high % fold to 4bet i would just call your 3bet with AA or KK
    p.s. he is asian ffs.. just fold
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    Old 07-27-2013, 10:21 PM   #5
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    it's fine.
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    Old 07-27-2013, 10:28 PM   #6
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    If you 3bet a lot vs ep opens you should be cbetting this hand, othereise you only cbet the absolute nuts --> means u fold too much. Bet flop check fold turn.

    Alternative strategy, do not 3bet preflop vs ep opens. Nothing wrong with flatting queens here.

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    Old 07-28-2013, 12:55 AM   #7
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    ^^^ i beg to differ, with co being a fish its criminal to not 3bet pre(feel like ive commented to this same type of hand right after rxrx a few months ago, did i dream it?)


    anyways as played i feel like utg could potentially flat wider due to co being fish + your range potentially being wider due to that... i also feel that if that's the case we have a tough spot being oop on this flop irregardless of what we do unless we hit turn

    i think i c/call & play it the same way you did n c/f turn

    if im betting this flop im jamming turn n turning my hand into a bluff pretty much tbh
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    Old 07-28-2013, 05:11 AM   #8
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    wp
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    Old 07-28-2013, 05:59 AM   #9
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    To what degree is villian positionally aware? I guess to a gigh degree, since he is a reg.
    I probably would flat here, maybe peel the flop, and then to later bets.
    As played, I think villian may have AK here a lot of times, given his high fold3bet, and being oop to the fish it should be pretty strong. I think villian would probably 4bet AA/KK, unless he is being tricky, trying to keep the fish in. So I think you should cbet the flop, and I would prob check the turn.

    As played though, I think played it OK.
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    Old 07-28-2013, 06:42 AM   #10
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    Not 3betting pre-flop is horrendous. The pure amount of value we would miss out on is just hilarious...
    Post-flop seems fine. I'd prob call turn w a Qh but now, folding seems the right thing to do.
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    Old 07-28-2013, 07:15 AM   #11
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    wp
    +1.
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    Old 07-28-2013, 10:13 AM   #12
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    Gotta be my old mate world right?

    Looks fine to me, he never barrels turn with worse.
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    Old 07-28-2013, 01:23 PM   #13
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    Re: 25nl - qq 3b pot vs grinder reg

    Yea its world
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