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11-26-2017 , 09:08 PM
I have a $2500 non-replaceable bankroll to play 50NL. I've played less than 3,000 hands at this limit, playing one or two tables, and I am a marginal winner.

I have been reading, watching videos, and learning, every time I play. I'd like to increase the number of tables to three, and then possibly max out at four.

If I'm playing three tables, I am in for $150. I don't know how much I should be adding to my stack if I fall below the table max buy-in. Should I be topping off automatically, or manually when I get down to a certain amount? How much of my bankroll should I be willing to risk for a specific session?

Most of my losses have come through miracle two-outers on the river. It happens. I don't tilt. But, I'm aware I could have a really bad session and playing three to four tables, could seriously impact my bankroll.

I cannot use a HUD where I play.

Suggestions please.

Thank you~
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11-27-2017 , 08:00 AM
You have a healthy roll. If your roll goes down to 1300, consider moving down to 25nl.
Always have auto top-up.
If you are uncomfortable playing deep, quit the table and start with a fresh 100bb stack.
And play as long as you are playing your A game. Don't be afraid to quit early in a session.
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11-27-2017 , 02:16 PM
Think auto-top off is good. 100bb stack is normal, if you find yourself doubled up (200BB) or more and your not comfortable with it leave the table and join a new one IMO. And yoy can always have 25nl tables up with your 50nl tables. You don't need to go fullout at 50nl.
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11-27-2017 , 03:35 PM
2500$ is a reasonable life roll for someone who has already established that they beat the games over at least like 50k+ hands. 3k hands is a useless sample, you will regularly fluctuate up or down 5 buyins during that time, and occasionally you will lose 10+ buyins in that 3k sample, even if you are the biggest crusher in your games. I would recommend you to start at 10nl at the highest since it seems like you are new to cash games and it will take at least several months before you can actually win at 50nl. Players new to cash will learn more from playing at 2nl than at 50nl because you will never figure out how to exploit a 50nl reg until you can exploit one at 2nl. Consider challenging yourself to beat 2nl on pokerstars/americas card room over 20k hands, you will learn a ton and you can use a hud to get more information about what other players are doing.
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11-27-2017 , 06:29 PM
I'm in a similar boat as you. One thing that I noticed to help me was to only play 1 or 2 tables at a time. Also, I don't set such a hard emphasis on table limits. I should only be playing 50nl to 100nl with my 4.5k bankroll, but if I see a juicy table, I step up to 200 or 500nl. When I play those stakes, I wait for a nutted hand and play it slow. That way I can get to the river and will be able to establish if he could have hit a suckout card. I also hit and run at the higher stakes when i'm up like $75+, I like to think that I'm a real gentleman.

GL to you!
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11-27-2017 , 06:33 PM
If you can't replace $2500... can you add on $50 now and then.

With a roll you can't replace, I'd look for every opportunity to build the roll, so you can make it as unlikely as possible for you to go busto; up to and including adding money to the roll from other income streams.
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11-27-2017 , 08:24 PM
Thanks to everybody who replied. I live in Vegas and I play on WSOP.com. No HUD allowed, and they don't save hand histories. It's the only option available to me, or at least the only one that I feel safe doing business with. I used to play on Ultimate Bet, so there you go.~

I'm a long time limit player who started playing NL more seriously. I have played a few thousand hands at 2NL, 10NL, and 20NL, and I just have a hard time continuing at those limits. I get too bored. I used to play live $6/$12 limit and occasionally $10/$20 limit. At least with 50NL I feel like there is something to be won, and it holds my interest. Playing lower, I found myself using my second monitor to watch YouTube poker videos and ended up splitting my concentration. 50NL keeps me engrossed enough to just focus on that.

WSOP.com does not offer 25NL. Wish they did. Maybe when they merge players with WSOP.com New Jersey, there will be more choices available.

I can probably add $50 or more from time to time, but I can't count on it. I was basically staked by someone who believed in me and doesn't want a cut of any winnings. First time I've had an opportunity to have a good roll and not need to take out living expenses. I was using auto-top one day playing 2 or 3 tables of 20NL and had no idea where I was at, accept to know I was stuck. I was shocked to see I was down almost $100. If this happened to me playing 50NL, my BR could take a serious hit.

I feel like this is my last chance and I just don’t want to mess it up.
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11-27-2017 , 09:24 PM
Online games are tough, i'de stick to live poker if i lived in vegas.
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11-27-2017 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Online games are tough, i'de stick to live poker if i lived in vegas.
I don't have the BR for live games, and I find I end up spending money on Starbucks, and probably one meal, while one would be comped from hours played.

Eventually, because I like the social aspect of a live game, I'll probably go play, but not until I have more of a BR.

Also have a nice reload bonus working on WSOP.com.
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11-28-2017 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickle
I should only be playing 50nl to 100nl with my 4.5k bankroll, but if I see a juicy table, I step up to 200 or 500nl. When I play those stakes, I wait for a nutted hand and play it slow. That way I can get to the river and will be able to establish if he could have hit a suckout card.
This all massively -EV
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12-06-2017 , 04:34 AM
Just my opinion, don't take it personally, but the entire thread looks like a joke.
I play on Stars.PT and I dont know how the pool is but just by the information you're giving about yourself you will most likely get destroyed. IMO anyone that beats a certain stake has to be able to play atleast 6 tables profitably and without any problem, multitabling becomes easy when you have a deep understanding of the game and of the players you're agaisnt. Plus, wanting to play and not knowing when you have to top up and to what ammount, just shows you should not start on NL 50.

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Originally Posted by Brickle
I'm in a similar boat as you. One thing that I noticed to help me was to only play 1 or 2 tables at a time. Also, I don't set such a hard emphasis on table limits. I should only be playing 50nl to 100nl with my 4.5k bankroll, but if I see a juicy table, I step up to 200 or 500nl. When I play those stakes, I wait for a nutted hand and play it slow. That way I can get to the river and will be able to establish if he could have hit a suckout card. I also hit and run at the higher stakes when i'm up like $75+, I like to think that I'm a real gentleman.

GL to you!
You will be highly exploited doing this, the only way you can still be winning doing this is running good, but good runs end.
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12-06-2017 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Thy M
IMO anyone that beats a certain stake has to be able to play atleast 6 tables profitably and without any problem
I agree with the rest of your post but not this. Multi-tabling is all just about getting more volume in in a shorter unit of time. If a player prefers to play one or two tables and can do so profitably then I'd see that as a perfectly plausible way of beating a limit. It'll just take them longer to reach a statistically significant sample size.
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12-06-2017 , 01:52 PM
Didn't read responses, but don't let your roll disappear by moving down after a downswing. So, if it drops to 1250 or some such number, drop to 25nl, if that drops to 625 or some such drop to 10nl, etc.
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12-06-2017 , 06:27 PM
you are way overolled dude.
if you cant replace the roll you should get a job imo
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12-07-2017 , 04:46 PM
I just read all of this thread. Would be shocked if OP could beat 10nl on any site right now or even 1/2 live. 2500 is ok to be playing 50nl but you def are not winning at these stakes.
If 2500 is all the money you have, you are making a TERRIBLE choice here and you actually sound like a bit of a degen.

Last edited by Smoking Dough; 12-07-2017 at 04:56 PM.
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12-07-2017 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoking Dough
I just read all of this thread. Would be shocked if OP could beat 10nl on any site right now or even 1/2 live. 2500 is ok to be playing 50nl but you def are not winning at these stakes.
If 2500 is all the money you have, you are making a TERRIBLE choice here and you actually sound like a bit of a degen.
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12-07-2017 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by parfoomgirl
I have a $2500 non-replaceable bankroll to play 50NL. I've played less than 3,000 hands at this limit, playing one or two tables, and I am a marginal winner.

I have been reading, watching videos, and learning, every time I play. I'd like to increase the number of tables to three, and then possibly max out at four.

If I'm playing three tables, I am in for $150. I don't know how much I should be adding to my stack if I fall below the table max buy-in. Should I be topping off automatically, or manually when I get down to a certain amount? How much of my bankroll should I be willing to risk for a specific session?

Most of my losses have come through miracle two-outers on the river. It happens. I don't tilt. But, I'm aware I could have a really bad session and playing three to four tables, could seriously impact my bankroll.

I cannot use a HUD where I play.

Suggestions please.

Thank you~
3,000 hands isn't going to tell much about your skill at a certain level. If playing 3-4 tables could seriously impact your bankroll you should just move down to 25nl and 4-table it. Then you won't get as bored

Best of luck! How's it going so far?
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12-07-2017 , 11:01 PM
this has to be a troll...
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12-08-2017 , 10:07 PM
and not a good one
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