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Old 07-07-2008, 12:21 PM   #1
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Diamond ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

ran 17/12/3 ampt2steal of 52.

obviously all criticisms and comments are welcome...but id rly like comments on the QQ and QJ hands later in the video.

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Old 07-07-2008, 12:26 PM   #2
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

Downloading, will tell you how it looks after i watch it with my lunch
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:08 PM   #3
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I will definitely be looking at this... will give you feedback FWIW when I ge a chance to view. Nice looking site BTW. How is the FR Challenge going?
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:21 PM   #4
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i really enjoy your videos
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:58 PM   #5
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

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ran 17/12/3 ampt2steal of 52.

obviously all criticisms and comments are welcome...but id rly like comments on the QQ and QJ hands later in the video.

Enjoy!


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U1WJ6BPU

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(first video on the page)

THank you for the vids
I am going to lokk that with serious but for the moment, i have watched very quickly but 2 hands gave me some questions.

Near the beginning of the video. A3s on the button and one limper, you fold?
Last minute of the video, 88 on the button and one limper on the cutoff and you don't raise?

Is this standart for you?
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:05 PM   #6
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looks like you cbet really small sometimes. do you vary it in function of the dryness of the board?

edit: just got to the part of the video where you discuss it
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:33 PM   #7
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thx for video.

QQ hand feels like a big jack. More so after seeing the 10's V-bet/bluff on the river of 5KK67 board. I feel the fold was a safe play and think with the semi-unknow villian i fold 80% of the time. (im a nit )

The KJ hand is 100% fold for me. call / raise behind, we cant just flat a 3 way pot in that pos. and a push is just spewy right?

BTW i like the smaller PFR. It helps keep the C-bet's lower and feel it get more action from weaker hands. Allows hero easyer folds on the flop/turn to unwanted pressure (see other players like speedle doing 3x pre)

EDIT: like the site, it seems well done. Like the Q&A and blog

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Old 07-07-2008, 08:42 PM   #8
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

very nice video, learned a lot, although i gotta adjust it to my 10NL level, which probably means not being *quite* that aggressive with stealing in LP and stuff. anyway, i don't think i can help you much with that QQ hand, as you're a much better player than me. i probably would have played it the same though, calling off until the river where you obv. have to fold. very though spot, and i always hate that myself when i don't know who the hell i'm playing against. at my level, calling on turn is pretty much +ev against unknowns though, so of course that spot gets even tougher in your case, where you would expect unknowns to not just be huge donkeys :P

it would be awesome if you made a 10NL video. i have my thoughts about what adjustments that have to be made from, say, the play in your 100NL video i just watched. but it would be nice to see it being put into practice by a solid winning player like yourself. you obviously know what you're talking about. i don't.
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:56 PM   #9
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

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THank you for the vids
I am going to lokk that with serious but for the moment, i have watched very quickly but 2 hands gave me some questions.

Near the beginning of the video. A3s on the button and one limper, you fold?
Last minute of the video, 88 on the button and one limper on the cutoff and you don't raise?

Is this standart for you?
i kind of went into why i dont raise Ax hands. i dont cuz 1.) im not great at playing them postflop, 2.) i dont find ISO-ing with it to b a good spot unless its against hypernits

i dont raise the 88 hand cuz ive found more value in takin a flop IP than ISO-ing. ppl that see a large ammnt of flops rnt generally great ppl to raise PPs with (PPs that rly need sets to make money with), and i believe the CO was pretty loose in that spot.
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:59 PM   #10
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

Hurt: thnx for liking my vids. ur thoughts on my sizing?

effect: KJ push wud b very spewwy. thnx for liking my site! and also, i think the QQ fold was fine...but of course its an odd spot. i didnt explain my thoughts durrin the vid as well as i wud have liked to...saddly isnt always easy to do

karl: i plan to make a micro-mini-series sometime soon. prolly will b 10NL, 25NL, and 50NL. some will b straight foward play...others might b a lil more fun =) thank you for the compliments

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Old 07-07-2008, 11:00 PM   #11
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Nice vid, the sound quality was a bit low though. I had trouble hearing it.

I am writing this up after the fact, so sorry that I don't have times and boards to better clarify these hands.

88 LP raise, SB calls, BB shorty shoves. I like your 4bet to iso, but I think you could have bet less and achieved the same effect. I think a min 4bet has the same effect defining SBs hand. I'd hate to run in to a slow played monster here and commit myself by the big reraise. I like the same line with AK, and any big pair here.

J9s early on, can't remember if you were in the SB or button. Flop JTx, not sure why you didn't bet that flop. Q hits on the turn, after checking the flop, I still think you should put out a small bet here, instead of having to call a river bet with mid pair.


T9s vs a MP raiser who was roughly 20/7 and 100 deep. I think you can float/steal a lot of pots from guys like that. I think his raising range is pretty much 99+ and paint, I also don't see him getting too aggro without a hand, so you can see a flop and take it from there. Your hand flops so well against his range, and could pay off nicely.

Ballsy call with the QJ. Can't remember the board exactly, but I know it was ugly. J8x67? You pretty much snap called, but that river kind of gross.

AK at the end, I think his hand was pretty transparent QQ-TT. Not sure why you put him on a possible set. I think you played the hand well until the river. You were well disguised. I'd min-raise that river, as he isn't going to shove there very often, and I think he makes a crying call most of the time after betting the first two streets. You also get value from hands like KQ-KT.

88 on the button, one limper, not sure why you limped along. Looks like a standard raising spot to me.
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:38 AM   #12
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

sry about sound quality...still tryying to get my Camtasia back to normal (upgraded, and settings changed)

i was thinking a shove>my sized 4b after re-watching the vid. might get looked up lighter, and my PP beats a lot of his

i check this flop sometimes, allows me to pot control from the start, and play the hand in a really easy manner. an suggest betting when a Q comes on the turn? the board just made straights, filld bigger pairs for other straight draws...theres almost no way i can bet profitably here on the turn with 3 other ppl still in the pot. that Q is rly bad

i agree T9 cud have been called. at the time, i didnt think it was the spot to do so

the QJ was kind of a non-standard call down. his line didnt make much sense. yea hed have big hands here sometimes...but hardly ever. so i think given hes loose, its a position pot, and hes pretty aggro, u can get away with making these calls sometimes

i think the smaller raise pf is generally a PP looking to setmine and build a pot. im still debating with ppl on the river play, obvi call is fine...but im not sure thats purely optimal. i dont mind setmining...but it sucks if i get shoved on

i think i explained 88 already. but i dont think its bad either way. very dependent on the loose guys callCB%.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:38 PM   #13
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

DLing now. Looking forward to it!
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:52 PM   #14
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How you get your hud to look like that on PT3?
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:19 AM   #15
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

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How you get your hud to look like that on PT3?
about 3hrs of working with color coding ranges, sizing it all, and "perfecting" location. their built in HUD sucks atm. like...a huge ammnt
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:45 AM   #16
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Hey splitsuit,

i'm the random dude who pestered you on aim today and yesterday.

my comments about this vid:

don't regs catch on to you limping small PP in ep? do you do that with other hands like suited connectors or premium hands to widen your range?

your hud stats are almost impossible to see. i'm not sure if it's the quality of the upload on your site or if it's that you have it somewhat transparent.

~38 minutes in, you raise QQ 4x in ep. Hadn't noticed you raise 4x prior. How do you determine your open raise preflop? by position? 4x ep, 3x lp?

43 min in, you call down a guy with QJ on J hi flop. you mentioned afterwards that you wanted to give him the betting lead. I know you posted your logic in the calldown, but could you post what his stats were? high AF? Couldn't see it.

would have to agree with a previous poster that the volume was low.
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:13 PM   #17
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

i do limp big hands and PPs in EP

did u watch the DL'd version or the version off my site? the DL'd version will b much clearer, and HUD stats wont b an issue (or shudnt b)

raising 3x v 3.5 v. 4x is all a function of position, weakness of players behind me, and current image

the QJ hand he was very loose, and seemed sort of aggro over a small sample. it is a position pot, and there arnt rly bigger J's in his hand. which make his range random 2prs+set (real hands) then trash (large part of his range).

i will tweak volume for the next recording. sry about that =(
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Old 07-11-2008, 04:37 PM   #18
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really dislike the J9s hand
calling what maybe a position bet with 2 more players left to act on a board that has many weak draws is not a good move IMO
if you were closing the betting action, I'm ok with the call
I think you were in a raise or fold situation once you decided to check the flop
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Old 07-11-2008, 04:38 PM   #19
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Not a huge fan of your Axs opinions

there are many debates on the merits of said hands and most really good msnlers have made strong arguments for their strength

I'll try to find some threads that go through it more
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oh yeah, I drop plenty of f-bombs and such as well, but
1) I don't think it's good when you're making a video
2) it brings on negative psychological states---awareness without judgment is best IMO... see The Inner Game of Tennis
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Old 07-11-2008, 04:41 PM   #21
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very interesting 3-bet v the 8/4 player with AQo
I'm pretty sure AQo is behind the range, but I can see the argument that it is still pos ev to raise as you're done with the hand if he calls, but you take it down enough to win otherwise

If he does fold to 3-bets that much, you can mix in some total garbage to 3-bet him
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Old 07-11-2008, 04:44 PM   #22
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There's some stuff in this thread on suited aces.
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...ge=0&fpart=all

About half way down pg. 1 starting with comments from Goofyballer and discussion from others follow.

One of my favorite threads, fwiw.
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:02 PM   #23
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

all this is in response to MT2R:

1.) the J9 is meh. from both the fold and call side. callin opens up the worsepr call from ppl behind me, in a pot where im prolly not puttin anything else in w/o improvement. i leaned towards call for that reason, plus bettor was last to act.

2.) i understand why ppl dont like my Ax opinion. however, a pf fold is neutral EV, and given that i havnt figured out how to make this hand a profitable one for me yet, i veer away from it. i understand its a profitable hand in general (i mean hell, just based on basic math it should be), but im not a msnl player, and to beat 100nl u dont need to b great with Ax (obvi at msnl A(2-5)s is a very valuable hand cuz of the 4b ability).

*however, because im always lookin to learn and such, id love to see any threads u have/find on the subject =)

3.) good psychological points on the f-bombs.

4.) i tried to make that point with the AQ hand (not so easy to speak all thoughts durrin vids...tho i try). AQ effectively is 39o in that spot (tho i wud agrue a lil worse if i get flat called), but i still thought it was a decent spot to squeeze



***thnx for the thread KNN
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:37 PM   #24
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Re: ***100NL Video (2008v.3)***

Thanks, SplitSuit. A 50NL vid speedle posted recently really opened my eyes regarding stealing. And your vid is pretty insightful, too--I'm sure it'll help me to further open up my range from LP.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:42 AM   #25
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44:00 - I really like your comment about not 3-betting a loose player when you have top pair and his range can still consist of bluffs and draws.

Great video.
BTW, I like the simple layout of your site.
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