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08-15-2018 , 10:39 AM
Hero was stuck a bit and then doubled up and is now unstuck V has always been raising from the button but this is the first time he has 3b from the BB

On to the hand

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $9.37 (94 bb)
MP: $18.10 (181 bb)
CO: $3.25 (33 bb)
BU (Hero): $13.08 (131 bb)
SB: $10.88 (109 bb)
BB: $11.07 (111 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with A 9
3 players fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BB 3-bets to $1.30, Hero calls $0.95

Flop: ($2.65) A 7 3 (2 players)
BB bets $1.32, Hero calls $1.32

Turn: ($5.29) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $2.64, Hero calls $2.64

River: ($10.57) 8 (2 players)
BB checks,

Spoiler:

Hero bets $7.04
Spoiler:
, BB folds


Question is what do we do on the river after check calling flop and turn.

Should we shove river or just check call and realise our showdown value the only hand that makes Sense is 45s

He should be slow playing most sets otf
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08-15-2018 , 02:24 PM
With the spr and this dry board villain can cb this small with sets. Should probably be a little smaller I guess, but for the size I’d say his range is still quite merged.

The turn bet is odd. Half pot again, here he’d likely size up with the stronger hands. There’s a few draws to semi bluff too. I imagine this is a weak holding that doesn’t really know how to continue a lot of the time when an ace is on board. Sets and less vulnerable aces bet bigger. We shouldn’t really ever raise here. I think players with stronger holdings probably naturally want to charge draws here while they can. We probably have to call down all aces at this point.

The rivers interesting. We get here with a lot of monsters and very little air, after the check I’m fairly certain we’re ahead but I’m not sure what worse calls? We’re not that far up our range on the river? Especially a shove. I’m leaning towards a very small bet but I’m not sure that’s correct. But getting called by worse after shipping it seems unlikely.

AT+ doesn’t fold. None aces likely don’t call on a straight flushy run out. Yeah I think bet smaller. $3 or so.


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08-15-2018 , 02:39 PM
That is a huge 3 bet I am folding to that sizing unless I have some killer reads. The river I believe what is best we just realize our SDV, if he folds, it is likely due to us having the best holding, maybe maybe! we can get him to fold a hand strong as A10-AJ, but for what he potentially could have it just isn't worth it and for his bluffs were ahead of. We basically don't get him to fold with worse and he calls with better while we have decent SDV.
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08-15-2018 , 02:44 PM
A less than 4x 3B oop isn’t huge. Pretty standard really, I’d question why we’re opening 3.5bb with our weakest range though.

If we are and then folding a hand like A9s then we’re in trouble. Unless V is a low 3B nit/rec it’s an easy call.


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08-16-2018 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by osucowboy0510
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Question is what do we do on the river after check calling flop and turn.

Should we shove river or just check call and realise our showdown value the only hand that makes Sense is 45s

He should be slow playing most sets otf
Would your bet be for value or a bluff? I assume a bluff as what worse hands call? (You beat A6, A5, A4, KK-TT and random air)

Turning your hand into a bluff might fold out some of the bottom part of his range (AJ, AQ etc) but what flushes can you credibly represent unless they have an Ace (or a 7) in them?
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08-16-2018 , 02:05 PM
I don’t know about this. I’m pretty positive that vil didnt have an A here, or he would have called. And I think he shows up w an A here that beats us and which he can’t fold enough times that this play is somewhat suicidal. We just got luck that this time he has QQ.
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08-20-2018 , 03:57 AM
1) id fold pre to the 3b
2) seeing as you never, calling flop and turn are fine but i would never river better there, your only getting called by better. I would CC river
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08-21-2018 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pokrr
I don’t know about this. I’m pretty positive that vil didnt have an A here, or he would have called. And I think he shows up w an A here that beats us and which he can’t fold enough times that this play is somewhat suicidal. We just got luck that this time he has QQ.
I figured him for the same but if it went C/C and he does have QQ/KK I would have felt bad of not betting the river and missing out on value
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08-21-2018 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by theonlyway
1) id fold pre to the 3b
2) seeing as you never, calling flop and turn are fine but i would never river better there, your only getting called by better. I would CC river
Against said Villain I am never folding the bottom of my range. I mean def folding if he did 3b bigger I would have folded worrying about AA and AQo+ but us having an ace makes that less likely
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08-21-2018 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by moxterite
Would your bet be for value or a bluff? I assume a bluff as what worse hands call? (You beat A6, A5, A4, KK-TT and random air)

Turning your hand into a bluff might fold out some of the bottom part of his range (AJ, AQ etc) but what flushes can you credibly represent unless they have an Ace (or a 7) in them?
I did turn my pair into a bluff unknowingly I guess....never crossed my mind at the moment. Thinking about it and all the responses I should have just C/C river and realised SDV
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08-22-2018 , 11:04 PM
I think you should not be raising this size preflop, but the flop and turn are ok. I check back river.

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08-24-2018 , 02:12 AM
This hand is butchered from the start. this is the madness im talking about in the bovada zone thread i made. opens way to large , insta fold to 3bet the rest is so butchered its not worth reviewing.
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09-01-2018 , 12:52 AM
Preflop: There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling this 3b from the button.

Flop: You have to call a bet with top pair, middle kicker.

Turn: Blank changes nothing. Call.

River: This is a check behind. What better hands fold? Maybe AT or AJ. Your pf call capped your range. You won't have AA, KK, AK. Your river bet polarizes your range. What worse hands call a 2/3 pot bet with 3 to a flush on board? With such a big bet you have a flush or a bluff. You are probably lucky villain didn't have A. He probably had A(K,Q,J,T,6,5,4). The bottom 3 would not call here and are discounted by the 3b. You were bluffing the top 4.

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