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02-01-2016 , 07:39 AM
Re: Re: jungle puzzles
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For most of them I could narrow things down to a few possible solutions but several ones, ESPECIALLY the one with the fast owl, were just unscrutable.

I did 100% in that hearing test though. Also, I learned that several % of the population are clinically tonedeaf. They are going to have a bad time in the game. But not as bad as the colorblind.


Unrelated: I spoilered myself a little and looked at the wikipedia article. I learned that (total number of puzzles, time needed and difficulty):
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The final game has more than 650 puzzles, which Jonathan Blow estimates will take the average player about 80 hours to solve. The puzzles include one that Blow believed that less than 1% of the players would be able to solve.
IT'S ON.
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02-01-2016 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Continuing above spoiler

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I think I figured it out, I never saw the underside of the box before, I have 1 more laser still that I need to get and then I guess I can turn the ipad on from the top
Good luck! Thats def my favourite part of the game and easily the most satisfying solve imo.
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02-01-2016 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
Re: Re: jungle puzzles
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For most of them I could narrow things down to a few possible solutions but several ones, ESPECIALLY the one with the fast owl, were just unscrutable.

I did 100% in that hearing test though. Also, I learned that several % of the population are clinically tonedeaf. They are going to have a bad time in the game. But not as bad as the colorblind.


Unrelated: I spoilered myself a little and looked at the wikipedia article. I learned that (total number of puzzles, time needed and difficulty):
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IT'S ON.
Blow has since backtracked and said people are taking that quote too literally, and that there are people that have 100%'ed it.
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02-01-2016 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
for spoiler tags

I played some more and found more to do. Based on TwistedEcho's post I have all the lasers but a lot of other things to find.

My top 5 of the most frustrating (and also most satisfying when you solve them) parts on the way to get all the lasers:
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1. The small house with the carved iron doors in the shades. Came back to it several times to try to read something in the doors.
2. The timed door in the treetops. I did many attempts at running as fast as I could.
3. The Japanese house. All of it.
4. Pitch puzzles. Brute-forced a few because I just couldnt hear them correctly. I even installed several pitch analyzers on my phone, no help.
5. Under the Egyptian temple. **** that place.
Re: 3
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Seriously **** that house - i think that was my 3rd laser and i def wished i'd done it later in the game when i was better, took me forever!


Re: 2
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If you'd rearranged the other paths correctly you just walk straight across and there basically isn't a timelimit :P


I think the worse area for me to clear was
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Either the coloured house or the town - several puzzles in both of those took me several attempts getting pissed off and leaving to solve till later. "The Challenge" was ****ing tough and really great to finally solve too, and now im pissed off cause im missing 4 panels and have no idea where they are
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02-01-2016 , 01:37 PM
For people that have finished the game or nearly finished

(Spoiler regarding the lake)

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did you realise the lake is a map of the island? Took me forever to notice this, but everything on the lake is related to the game.

even more detailed lake spoiler!
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the white flowers are audio files (and bloom when found), yellow are triangle secret puzzles, clams are hexagon files, lights are lasers and fountains are obelisks
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02-02-2016 , 01:21 AM
For anyone that's solved the town in the middle..

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My mspaint insanity to solve the shipping container puzzles, I pity the PS4 or single monitor players who have to write this stuff out by hand
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02-02-2016 , 12:21 PM
Currently at 171+8 with 3 lasers completed but facing several seemingly dead ends that I've been stuck on for a bit:

Basically all of the middle town puzzles

Under the windmill

Last couple tree/shadow puzzles

End of Tetris/swamp set

Last of the 4 mazes

Was running around aimlessly late last night and discovered a completely new part of the island I hadn't seen before. Game world is really deceptively large and intricate. Pretty overwhelming but game is amazing overall.
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02-02-2016 , 12:23 PM
Oh and the ****ing Buddhist/Japanese temple place.

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got the tree diamond shaped puzzles on the outside but am completely stumped on the first rectangle puzzle inside the small house. I'm praying its some weird concept I haven't learned yet but it seems like there's nothing to it so I'm demoralized
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02-02-2016 , 01:19 PM
Disko, re: Japanese temple thing:

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I was stuck in the exact same place as you. Left, did a lot of other stuff, came back and got it very fast. There's no specific mechanic you need to learn elsewhere, just think the game gets better at teaching you how to approach problems over time.
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02-03-2016 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Just got to the endgame, # of hours/# of puzzles to get there in the spoiler (although you certainly could do it with more or fewer puzzles than I did if you wanted):

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28 hrs, 408 puzzles


What a ride. The final puzzles of the game are challenging, fresh, and fantastic. Awesome game. Have to take a break for tonight but I imagine soon I'll be back trying to finish everything else I left behind...

(and contrary to what weevil and potentially others thought - the end of the game doesn't permanently end your game, I had my saves backed up in case it did but that wasn't necessary)
I just double checked and I'm finding lots of places that say the game does finish, you have to go back to a previous save though I think it was patched in to make a save game right before, so I guess it's not an issue now. I think I'm about to hit that point so I wanted to make sure. Goofy kicked my ass by about
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six hours, at around 390+60 though I think I did way more of the extra puzzles before doing the ending.
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02-03-2016 , 01:23 AM
If they patched it maybe that's what caused the confusion. Yes, it will save the game before the point of no return and you can load it later.
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02-03-2016 , 02:15 AM
For TE, anyone else who's done both Steam achievements in the game

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As hard as this is, the absolute worst is the super motion sickness-inducing hunting for two needles in the haystack of a maze. I can't attempt this anymore tonight or else I'll get sick.

Then the 3D puzzles are just super RNG. A couple times I managed to get one that was doable, but very often it seems like you get a ridiculous one that will take several minutes just to grasp the full extent of it.

Dunno if I'll ever finish this, mostly because I won't ever be able to do it for more than an hour at a time. I've yet to get past the 3D part and I'm guessing I then have to tackle what look like quickly rotating puzzles above the final door.
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02-03-2016 , 03:27 AM
Fwiw you can 100% the game on a single save file no matter what you do - there is not a point of no return anywhere in the game. You do need to reload your game at a point, but you can do everything on that game file.

I personally collected all the lasers before going to where i assumed the end would be in case you couldn't go back and redo things but even if you get there w/ the minimum amount of puzzles solved you can still go back and do the rest after.

Spent about 6 hours last two days walking around the entire map looking for my last missing panel, and eventually found it in a random area that I must have missed the first time through since it seems to do nothing when solved.

Last edited by TwistedEcho; 02-03-2016 at 03:34 AM.
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02-03-2016 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
For TE, anyone else who's done both Steam achievements in the game

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As hard as this is, the absolute worst is the super motion sickness-inducing hunting for two needles in the haystack of a maze. I can't attempt this anymore tonight or else I'll get sick.

Then the 3D puzzles are just super RNG. A couple times I managed to get one that was doable, but very often it seems like you get a ridiculous one that will take several minutes just to grasp the full extent of it.

Dunno if I'll ever finish this, mostly because I won't ever be able to do it for more than an hour at a time. I've yet to get past the 3D part and I'm guessing I then have to tackle what look like quickly rotating puzzles above the final door.
I really feel bad for the people that got motion sickness while playing because that obvious can spoil a really amazing game. I put in plenty of 8-10 hour sessions and never had any issues luckily.

RE: The second achievement

This took me forever to solve and constant run attempts before i luckily got it done with about 2 seconds to spare, however (slight tip for people struggling)

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There is an easier way to solve the 3D maze - Blow has your back!
Even more help if you don't want to work out how yourself
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The 4th puzzle in the sequence is on a raised block to show it is significant. The puzzle is the path through the 3D maze and the black dots are the puzzles in the maze you need to complete before moving on
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02-03-2016 , 11:51 AM
I'm at 251, got up to 238 before I started a single lazer.

I may have gotten high and wandered around a bit
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02-03-2016 , 05:24 PM
For anyone that's finished, I could use a hint on
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the floor puzzle at the bottom after the elevator.


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Here's what I have so far.

The left half of the symmetry works and when I try to solve stays white, but the right side flashes red as wrong. I have the backwards L solved for the bottom right panel on the floor (I drew a black line through the two Ls to indicate they're rotateable since MSPaint doesn't do 45deg. rotations), and the 3 block tetris piece shown in the top on my image solved correspondingly on the floor, so it's not that I've selected the wrong symbols, and my image seems to follow all the rules of tetris pieces and symmetry.

I've been stuck for a day on this and have tried looking assuming I've gotten the wrong approach to solving this, but I can't find any other way to interpret the puzzle - am I going about this the wrong way?


EDIT: nm, literally 30s after posting this and popping back in I figured it out. If goofy had been online I would have bothered him until he'd start thinking of how to give me a hint and then I'd figure it out just before he typed it

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I had the correct backwards L shape picked, I just didn't have the mapped solution for it correspond to the orientation I wanted it in for the puzzle.

Last edited by weevil; 02-03-2016 at 05:29 PM.
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02-03-2016 , 05:37 PM
Haha

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I guess there's multiple solutions to that one, I solved it with the shapes inside rather than outside. I thought that was a super cool puzzle though, one of the many moments in this game (especially towards the endgame) where I was like "oh this looks easy enough" doing the four floor panels and then world's greatest troll JB comes in like BUTNAHHHHHHH
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02-03-2016 , 07:02 PM
I went ahead and got the game. I love the colors and the scenery. The puzzles are pretty fun. My only complaint so far is how slow you walk and running doesn't make it any better.

And, surprise, surprise, my computer runs like crap. I keep stuttering and dropping down to 1 FPS along with the audio cutting out. Similar things were happening with Fallout 4. I think my computer is telling me it's time for some upgrades. The question is, do I rebuild from nothing or do I just replace some of the major parts? Motherboard, CPU, and RAM?
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02-03-2016 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
I went ahead and got the game. I love the colors and the scenery. The puzzles are pretty fun. My only complaint so far is how slow you walk and running doesn't make it any better.

And, surprise, surprise, my computer runs like crap. I keep stuttering and dropping down to 1 FPS along with the audio cutting out. Similar things were happening with Fallout 4. I think my computer is telling me it's time for some upgrades. The question is, do I rebuild from nothing or do I just replace some of the major parts? Motherboard, CPU, and RAM?
I played it on my laptop with no graphics card - just 8gig ram and settings on low and it ran fine.
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02-03-2016 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedEcho
I played it on my laptop with no graphics card - just 8gig ram and settings on low and it ran fine.
I turned the graphics down to Low and turned off Vsync and it's working a lot better! I only have 6GB RAM. My computer has been sluggish for awhile now. The main components are almost 7 years old now.
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02-03-2016 , 11:30 PM
up to 280+5 and 3 lazers, game is continually rewarding.
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02-03-2016 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
up to 280+5 and 3 lazers, game is continually rewarding.
Where does it say how many puzzles you've completed? Is that what the 280 is?
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02-04-2016 , 12:28 AM
Go to the "load game" screen and it will tell you.
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02-05-2016 , 09:55 PM
Super BunnyHop put out his review of the game, really didn't expect him to have this kind of reaction to it. You won't believe what he says at the 7 min mark!
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i keed




In all seriousness, this is the reaction I expect from 99.9% of PS4 players.
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02-05-2016 , 10:22 PM
Watching that review I did see some things that made my experience better.

I think the best witness experience would have been playing it in the same room as 1-2 other people.
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