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01-30-2016 , 09:52 PM
Played for another 1.5 hours, up to 71 puzzles completed
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01-30-2016 , 10:35 PM
Just got to the endgame, # of hours/# of puzzles to get there in the spoiler (although you certainly could do it with more or fewer puzzles than I did if you wanted):

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28 hrs, 408 puzzles


What a ride. The final puzzles of the game are challenging, fresh, and fantastic. Awesome game. Have to take a break for tonight but I imagine soon I'll be back trying to finish everything else I left behind...

(and contrary to what weevil and potentially others thought - the end of the game doesn't permanently end your game, I had my saves backed up in case it did but that wasn't necessary)
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01-31-2016 , 12:09 AM
Anyone know how many puzzles there actually are? Currently at 501, +13 and obviously loads more real world ones to find but struggling with finding more panel puzzles. Know where two more are but then i'm running out of ideas :/

Goofy -
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have you done the secret area at the end? That is a fun one to solve

Last edited by goofyballer; 01-31-2016 at 09:25 PM. Reason: potential spoiler
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01-31-2016 , 05:33 AM
Just put in an epic 10 hour session. I think I'm going to be tracing mazes in my dreams tonight. Still an awesome game 18 hours in. I'm at 303 puzzles and currently in the treehouse zone. So far I think all the puzzle mechanics are great except the audio ones. Holy **** my pitch deafness combined with waiting 10 seconds between each playback is tilting as all hell. Took a break from them and will return to them later, but if I still have trouble I think I'm just going to look up the answer or bruteforce it.

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Anyone know how many puzzles there actually are? Currently at 501, +13 and obviously loads more real world ones to find but struggling with finding more panel puzzles. Know where two more are but then i'm running out of ideas :/
Think there's around
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650ish
. Wouldn't surprise me if there's some really hard ones to find JB is known for that.

Last edited by goofyballer; 01-31-2016 at 09:26 PM. Reason: potential spoiler
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01-31-2016 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rollos
Just put in an epic 10 hour session. I think I'm going to be tracing mazes in my dreams tonight. Still an awesome game 18 hours in.
Heh, first two nights i put in 10 hour sessions and only forced myself to stop because of work. There have been several puzzles i've been truly confused on and left and had to come back to multiple times with a fresh perspective at solving them - its been a stupidly hard but really fun journey.

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Think there's around
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650ish
. Wouldn't surprise me if there's some really hard ones to find JB is known for that.
I finally risked it and googled it trying to avoid spoilers - seems that
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523 +135 + 6
is the furthest anyone has gotten yet so i've got loads to still find and god knows where my missing panels are :s I know where ~10 are (since i've left them cause I haven't worked them out yet!), but the last few I have no clue

Last edited by goofyballer; 01-31-2016 at 09:26 PM.
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01-31-2016 , 12:22 PM
Really amazing game, I love how it is structured. My favorite moments are when a puzzle looks like total bull**** and after you come back to it later it makes perfect sense.

It cost me way too much sleep (very hard to stop playing once you started) but I got to the end. It took me (hours, puzzles):
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17 hours to solve 396 puzzles.

Screenshots and MSPaint were A LOT of help.

I read stuff about the game after finishing it (avoided spoilers before) and was surprised that a certain type of puzzles existed. I got to the end without visiting their area at all:
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pitch puzzles

I wonder if there is some sort of story that you can put together. I found two recordings (didnt realize they existed for most of the game) and they were only abstract musings.
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01-31-2016 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
Really amazing game, I love how it is structured. My favorite moments are when a puzzle looks like total bull**** and after you come back to it later it makes perfect sense.

It cost me way too much sleep (very hard to stop playing once you started) but I got to the end. It took me (hours, puzzles):
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17 hours to solve 396 puzzles.

Screenshots and MSPaint were A LOT of help.
You've still got a fair bit to go. There are
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11
lasers that you can activate, and (potential nature-of-how-game-ends spoiler)
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a hidden secret area in the ending area w/ 'the challenge' to solve.
Then you've also got (non-obvious-type-of-puzzle spoiler)
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environment puzzles
and (potential nature-of-how-game-ends spoiler)
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the hidden ending
. Def don't stop yet, so much more cool stuff to find/solve!

Last edited by goofyballer; 01-31-2016 at 09:28 PM. Reason: potential spoiler
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01-31-2016 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I quickly skimmed this article. It's pretty crazy to read that he budgeted $800,000 for the game and it ended up costing nearly $6 million.
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01-31-2016 , 12:58 PM
**** this buddha temple thing man
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01-31-2016 , 01:02 PM
I'm at 138

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found the tetris learning zone, oh its on now
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01-31-2016 , 03:52 PM
Quick Desert question about the laser

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It looks to be pointing the wrong way? I got the trophy but something doesn't look right. Also noticed a puzzle at the bottom of the elevator that sizzles and seems to only have one way to go so I think I traced it to the end and it made a sound but not sure what it did??
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01-31-2016 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spimp13
Quick Desert question about the laser

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It looks to be pointing the wrong way? I got the trophy but something doesn't look right. Also noticed a puzzle at the bottom of the elevator that sizzles and seems to only have one way to go so I think I traced it to the end and it made a sound but not sure what it did??
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maybe you'll have to adjust the laser somehow Also, keep looking for those special puzzles, if you activate them properly you'll get coloured explosion/firework type animation and a +1 score to your save game there are 135 to find - good luck hunting!
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01-31-2016 , 09:52 PM
cruised through the first 2 trophies/lasers

having an embarrassingly difficult time with the tetris puzzles. on one now that doesn't even seem possible.
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01-31-2016 , 10:05 PM
I added a bunch of spoiler tags to recent-ish posts. I imagine that this is a type of game, due to its genre and high initial price point, that a lot of people are only going to start playing a year+ from now, and I think it would be cool if this thread is still something they can read through when they do without too much of the nature of the game being revealed. I admit I'm being a huge nit (and this isn't a rule, just a guideline) but I think this game is probably best experienced with a clean slate, and going in knowing certain things might cause someone's experience of this beautiful game to not be as good as it could have been. As an example, anyone who has a +X in their save game description can click this:

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My mind was BLOWN when I first realized that environmental puzzles were a thing. It was like, oh ****, here I've been playing this one game and thinking I was hot **** at it when the REAL game was EVERYWHERE AROUND ME. I think that even mentioning that puzzles exist outside of computer panels you click and draw lines on is a huge spoiler for someone just starting.


I was chatting with weevil over Steam while we were playing and we had this exchange (and I'm a bit farther in game progression than he is):

weevil: how many [redacted] have you unlocked
goofyballer: [redacted]? i'm not sure i know what you're talking about
weevil: woops, sorry

I don't blame you or anything so sorry for putting you on the hot seat, but I think it's an illustrative example of how easy it can be to let some of the game's secrets accidentally slip. So, let's all try to be careful - make liberal use of spoiler tags, and if you aren't directly replying to someone's question then try to put a non-spoilery description of what the spoiler applies to beforehand. Like, as an example, a post in a Harry Potter thread that reads like

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My mind was super blown by
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Snape killing Dumbledore!
will not go well for people who haven't seen that but clicked anyway because there's no warning about what exactly was being spoiled. That would go a lot better if you put "(Half-Blood Prince spoiler)" before it (I had to google which book that's in, lol).

Sorry if this seems heavy handed, and again it's just a suggestion and I'm not going to hand out bans or anything, just want to make sure this thread helps everyone who plays it enjoy the game to its fullest possible extent.
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01-31-2016 , 10:28 PM
good idea goofy
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01-31-2016 , 10:58 PM
Your first spoiler goofy, yes!
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01-31-2016 , 11:30 PM
looool well after 45mins finally figured out what i was doing wrong in the swap/tetris zone.

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i thought there was only one invisible column in between the double boxes. there's actually 2 invisible columns. something i should've realized sooner based on the prior puzzle and how the multi-column image appeared there.

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01-31-2016 , 11:34 PM
Haha, that's a tricky one. I saw someone tweet your picture at Jonathan Blow asking if there were solutions to puzzles that the game didn't recognize (he said no, that's an incorrect solution). Then weevil sent me a screenshot of that puzzle basically asking the same thing.
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02-01-2016 , 02:39 AM
Endgame spoiler, don't really even recommend clicking on this if you aren't TE:

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Originally Posted by TwistedEcho
Goofy -
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have you done the secret area at the end? That is a fun one to solve
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No and I didn't know there was one, but since your post I've been searching furiously for it in the final area. I've found a couple pictures in the game world of solutions to a puzzle I haven't found yet involving hexagon shapes, and I think maybe the only place I've seen arrangements like those (though it's tenuous) are the pillars in the water in the red room with the dude and the unpowered ipad. There's a cable going in and out of it, it looks like one end goes up to the surface and the other end into the ground, and I assume I need to figure out where that one in the ground goes to turn it on, but no luck yet.

Don't think I want a hint or anything yet but we'll see how long I bang my head against the wall on this.
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02-01-2016 , 03:52 AM
Continuing above spoiler

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I think I figured it out, I never saw the underside of the box before, I have 1 more laser still that I need to get and then I guess I can turn the ipad on from the top
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02-01-2016 , 05:09 AM
Good call on the spoilers imo. Game is great!
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02-01-2016 , 05:40 AM
Welp just logged off to catch a few hours of shut eye before work... 430 came way too quick

I wanna say 113 puzzles in 3ish hours? I had way too much trouble with a few lol... Sick game

Only one trophy so far
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02-01-2016 , 06:15 AM
for spoiler tags

I played some more and found more to do. Based on TwistedEcho's post I have all the lasers but a lot of other things to find.

My top 5 of the most frustrating (and also most satisfying when you solve them) parts on the way to get all the lasers:
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1. The small house with the carved iron doors in the shades. Came back to it several times to try to read something in the doors.
2. The timed door in the treetops. I did many attempts at running as fast as I could.
3. The Japanese house. All of it.
4. Pitch puzzles. Brute-forced a few because I just couldnt hear them correctly. I even installed several pitch analyzers on my phone, no help.
5. Under the Egyptian temple. **** that place.
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02-01-2016 , 06:42 AM
Re: jungle puzzles

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I don't hate them as much as a lot of you guys seemed to. I did have to brute force one of them, and that one was total bull**** - it's the one where there were like 3 sounds (bird chirp, a long whistle, and a really fast owl song or something). Youtube told me you were supposed to trigger off the owl song, which sounded a lot to me like it was lo-med-hi-lo and ldo I tried that as a solution, but the answer was apparently lo-med-lo-hi, and also the sound was so fast that the idea that there was a long note on the end rather than it being 4 quick notes seemed ridiculous and caused me to incorrectly think of about 20 other things it could be referring to. So **** that one bull**** puzzle. But the rest of them I rather enjoyed, with most of them there were fairly clear tones discernible for me.

I would guess it's something like the motion sickness issue, maybe with the small team they had working on/playtesting the game it didn't seem like an issue, but you get it out to a huge population and a lot of people struggle.


Unrelated: heading to bed now at 2:30, and while my sleep schedule has never been as rigorous as this guy's (Super Meat Boy creator) I can very much empathize with his struggle:

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