I gotta say, there are way too many games coming out right now. I'm not even done with Borderlands, and I already want to pick up Modern Warfare 2, Ballad of Gay Tony, Dragon Age, Torchlight and L4D2. Ugh...

Been grinding 18 mans and I'm getting a lot of FPPS as I get close to achieving Platinum.

With these points I'm thinking about getting the PS3 (Stars dropped it from 36,000 FPP to 27,000 FPP or perhaps the cash bonus) or getting the cash bonus and using it to buy a PS3 or pay rent.

My question is how long do you think these systems will be alive? I can see the PS3 being around longer as it's capabilities havn't been pushed yet and I can see it having a longer life from this day as it came out later than Xbox360. I hear a lot of negatives about the PS3 such as lack of title selection, PSN sucks, etc.

What do you guys think?

I would imagine the 360 and PS3 have the same lifespan - both companies will come out with new consoles around the same time to keep the other from getting a huge lead, and the current generation will stop getting new games like 1-2 years after that.

That would probably be 2012 maybe when new consoles come out? Just guessing.

Ya, especially since Microsoft said that Natal is an add-on for the 360. Sure, it has the potential to be a brand new console, but they know it's too early to introduce one.

From what I hear 360 has a pretty good lifespan still left, I wouldn't let that influence you in your decision.

I'm still into Borderlands, not getting MW2, BoGT.

Not sure what Torchlight is.

I got burned out on L4D, so doubt I will be getting L4D2.

Dragon Age, I already took it back for store credit. I'm pretty much only playing online co-op games now. I don't find myself enjoying single player much, anymore.

I don't know what it is but today's games look great/high anticpation but don't have the depth they used to have. Maybe it's just I'm getting older and moving away from video games but I never remember a time in my life where I played the current games and put them down after a few weeks. Could be that I've been so spoiled in video games that I'm becoming jaded quickly with new titles.

When I was young, "depth" was playing Super Mario 100 times. Real depth has always been kinda rare, I think (strategy games tend to have it - Civilization, for example - and RPGs tend to as well, but in other types of games it's hard to come by).

Yeah I think you're right about our perception of depth when we're younger.

When I was 7-12 or so (I can't remember exactly) I really got into Doom, Wolfenstein, and Jill of the Jungle. There wasn't much for levels/weapons/etc (Doom had 9 if I recall correctly, and Wolf had 4 weapons) yet I'd still play these games non-stop day in and day out.

cliffs in bold.

http://kotaku.com/5403098/starcraft-...yline=true&s=x

Starcraft 2 in 2010.
Diablo 3 definitely not in 2010.

I'm okay with these bans. It's a lot like speeding. I often speed, but I know the day I get pulled over for it, I'm just going to accept my punishment. 360 modders should feel the same way.

It is sort of interesting that they timed it right at the release of MW2. Seriously, this might boost holiday console sales.

Bought a 360. I think what I want to do first is play old/cheap (but good) games. Unfortunately, I haven't followed video games much in the last few years. So here's where you tell me what to get.

I like zombie games, games with good storylines, and the occasional (good) war game. I also tend to like game of the year games. I guess popular games are okay by me.

Here are some I am potentially eyeballing:

Lego Star Wars (Complete Saga)
CoD 2
Gears of War
Mass Effect
Bio Shock
Dead Rising
DeadSpace

Looking to buy one or two. Which of these (or other oldish games) should I look to get?

I'd get Bioshock and Gears of War for sure. Dead Space a close third. Dead Rising is fun but repetitive and I haven't played the other two.

also i think theyve confirmed that the beta wont be released before xmas

Bought that 360 Arcade a few days ago. Loving BioShock so far.

Just purchased 60 GB Starter pack (HDD, Headset, 3 months Live) and RE: 5 (to play with a friend) for $125. I have no idea if I'll need 60 instead of 20 GB, but the value was basically free. $90 for 60/headset/3months or $50 for refurbished 20.

Don't buy Dead Rising unless you have an HDTV. The mission critical text is unreadable on an SDTV.

Heavy Rain probably won't be popular here, since it's a younger, action-junkie crowd, but it definitely has piqued my interest...a lot.

Felix, it sounds really interesting. Too bad it is only PS3. I haven't played a PS3 yet, so I doubt I'll get a chance to play Heavy Rain. Looks really intriguing though.

Definitely. I like that you play as different protagonists thru the game. And if one dies, the story continues, but w/o that character. If they pull this off well, it should be an epic, although under-the-radar game.

Feb. release.

I spent the better part of my day (making it worse) by playing BioShock for like 6.5 hours. I beat the rest of the game, though, so that's good. I can return it to Gamestop tomorrow and pick up something new. I really like good story games, but I think I need something not so dark.

I think I enjoy my time spent playing games way more when they aren't too heavy, oddly enough. There's a time for Silent Hill, Resident Evil, or killing in general....but I've played way more NCAA than anything else in my life and I think that's because it's not violence related.

I really am weird with video games.

Not sure what to pick up next. Gears of War and Dead Space both fall into that category, but they're the next best games that are "free" with my trade-in tomorrow, so I don't know.

For anyone who didn't know, Netflix page on using Netflix instant watch service with PS3.

Really cheesy video with a terrible host.....but if you are still interested here is some new info, gameplay footage and US release date for Final Fantasy 13.

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/82684...eo_111209.html

Toys R Us has a buy one game and get $20 off the next game going now. It's for Wii, Xbox360, and PS3 game $39.99 and up.

I should never have re-installed CIV4, I can't stop playing it.