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Anyone care to recommend a vendor or other advice for buying a new desktop gaming PC? I won't be playing the latest FPS, so I'm more value-conscious and noise-conscious (PC will be on in bedroom while I sleep) than I am concerned with performance, but my >5-year old system is just annoying me too much lately with its lagginess and hiccups.

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03-18-2014 , 08:36 PM

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Daer

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I recommend building your own if you can.

Check out http://www.tomshardware.com/ and click on the "Build Your Own" section for some example builds.

Also check out their latest hardware comparison articles:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...mark,3269.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...lock,3106.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3107.html

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03-18-2014 , 09:01 PM

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Namath12

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Top part is kinda interesting

1557 zones lolz

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03-18-2014 , 09:32 PM

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YouR_DooM

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I would go with this

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=745567

Easy to read, easy to understand, easy to follow.

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03-18-2014 , 10:04 PM

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FlyWf

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Originally Posted by Daer

http://pcpartpicker.com/ is a really cool tool, but if you are really concerned with price/performance ratio and don't need the latest and greatest the optimal play is to wait around until Dell/HP/etc. have one of their random coupon deals on last year's model.

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03-18-2014 , 11:07 PM

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ddubois

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Originally Posted by Daer

I recommend building your own if you can.

Been there, done that, not interested.

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03-19-2014 , 09:24 AM

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whatthejish

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lolwat. Seriously, unless you have a grave aversion to reading, build your own. All you're going to get from a "we-build-it-for-you" company is a crappy warranty, a few gigs of worthless adware, and a fancy sticker for $500 more. If you ever require the use of a warranty, you'll likely end up using the manufacturer's anyway.

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03-19-2014 , 09:46 AM

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FlyWf

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Originally Posted by whatthejish

Again, this is just flatly incorrect at the mid-range.

This deal expired but is representative:
http://www.gotapex.com/deals/dell-xp...14-99-shipped/

There is no way you're building an equivalent system to that for $615. Now, practically, you wouldn't even try because of how awful that Dell's video card is, but for what the guy is talking about just the i7 in that is $300.

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03-19-2014 , 11:21 AM

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Mr.mmmKay

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the problem with most pre builds is that they have a high end processor and a low end graphics, while for a gaming pc you want it the other way around

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03-19-2014 , 01:33 PM

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mindtrixx

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03-19-2014 , 02:10 PM

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goofyballer

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Is there seriously a kickstarter for that ****? Looks awful

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03-19-2014 , 02:11 PM

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whatthejish

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inb4 "jumped the shark simulator"

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03-19-2014 , 02:28 PM

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El Kabong

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Kickstarter confirmed real. Looks like a student Unity game.

This is best animal sim of 2014 imo.

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03-19-2014 , 02:32 PM

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Bluegrassplayer

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I never understood the appeal of any of these games.

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03-19-2014 , 03:05 PM

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El Kabong

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Unreal 4 is $19/mo.

GG Unity?

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03-19-2014 , 03:09 PM

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whatthejish

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Unreal 4 is $19/mo.

GG Unity?

whoa.

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03-19-2014 , 03:13 PM

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goofyballer

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This is awesome for game development.

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03-19-2014 , 03:22 PM

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El Kabong

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Yep. This is huge.

5% of gross revenue instead of 25% of net revenue. Full access to the source. Export to PC, Mac, iOS and Android, HTML5 and Linux soon.

Hopefully Unity counter with a similar offer or open up features on their gimped free version.

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03-19-2014 , 03:47 PM

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FlyWf

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Originally Posted by Mr.mmmKay

the problem with most pre builds is that they have a high end processor and a low end graphics, while for a gaming pc you want it the other way around

This is a very good point. Not only that, prebuilds tend to skimp badly on power supplies(and sometimes have weird case issues) so you're gonna be very limited with video card upgrade options. And if you're comfortable replacing the PS and video card you might as well just build your own.

But just from a raw price perspective, vulturing coupon deals is your best bet.

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03-19-2014 , 03:48 PM

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FlyWf

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I never understood the appeal of any of these games.

I have to assume like 3% of the people playing those [blank] Simulator [year] games are doing so sober.

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03-19-2014 , 06:29 PM

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weevil

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

This is awesome for game development.

It's great, but at the same time there's such an oversaturation of tiny indie teams flooding the market with games thanks to Unity and Greenlight/Desura etc. over the last few years, and it's only going to get worse. Greenlight lately seems to be a joke, there have only been a few semi-decent games released out of the many released in the last few months, so hopefully they figure out a better system soon. Twitch is proving to be the most reliable way to me to find good new indie games, so I'm not that worried, the good stuff will still rise to the top.