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07-04-2020 , 12:26 AM
Re: what I said about Astrea the other night - this first series tonight, Maru vs. Prince, this Prince kid ****ing gets it. He's like, oh ****, my first GSL and I'm up against the 27-time champion, what do I do?

I CHEESE HIM.

This series is great.
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07-04-2020 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Re: what I said about Astrea the other night - this first series tonight, Maru vs. Prince, this Prince kid ****ing gets it. He's like, oh ****, my first GSL and I'm up against the 27-time champion, what do I do?

I CHEESE HIM.

This series is great.
Spoilers for this series

Spoiler:
Florencio would have won Game 1. Hell, even I could have won it.
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07-04-2020 , 02:41 PM
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I don't get it. That's why you don't cannon rush Terran, isn't it? Yes, it could have been different if he locked the workers in, but that doesn't look easy to do anyway. He was lucky the rax wasn't in the main to begin with as well.

That begin said, he had a Stargate, I think he was going to go void rays to counter a tank from the factory, but Maru floated it out went cyclone instead.

Still, that was the right idea from prince as goofy said.
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07-04-2020 , 05:23 PM
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It was correct if Prince is normally a cheesy Protoss player. IMO, as opposed to goofy apparently, I think someone new to tournament level should stick with what got them there in the first place. If you're a cheesy player, keep cheesing. If you aren't, play your normal game (which is what Astrea did afaik and why I support what he did even if he's on paper the worst player in the group).

I think for players at the level we're talking about (barely qualifying level), it's best to just keep doing whatever it was that got you there. If you're typically a more late-game oriented player, and that's what won your qualifying matches, then do that. Even if, in a vacuum, a nice cheese would give you better odds to win, it's probably not enough in practice to overcome your natural tendencies. It seems to me that up and coming players, on average, are usually very stylistic (which makes sense IMO since being a 1 trick on ladder is more than enough to climb if you're good enough). At this level, no one is really expecting you to be as well-rounded as a championship-winning level player, so you might as well lean into whatever specific styles got you to this position in the first place. If I ever qualfied for WCS (LOL), you bet your ass I'd be making mutas every single game because that would be what got me there in the first place.

Coming back to Group E, Prince obviously decided cheesing was his best option to advance. But he also made very clear mistakes in every single game that suggests to me that maybe this isn't his normal play style. I don't know that for sure, having never seen a single game of his before this group, but his mistakes seemed to me the kind that an experienced cheeser would not make (hence why I think Florencio would have won G1 vs Maru, printf too probably). Certainly it's also possible it was just LAN nerves (which even though I do not suffer from at all (not so humble brag XD), are clearly a real thing), but again, doing what you know would mitigate that more IMO.

At the end of the day, it seems largely irrelevant because being a budget Parting or a budget Stats means you lose in both cases anyway, but I appreciate players who have their own ideas about the game and stick to them (this is one of the most important qualities for a player aspiring to win championships IMO). Whether or not Prince did that, IDK, but I think Astrea did it, and he has my respect for that (even if he's a Protoss player XD).

In other news, I'm surprised to see exactly 0 early pools by Scarlett over 6 ZvZs. I guess she was really confident against Armani.
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07-09-2020 , 12:06 AM
If you generally find Tastosis annoying then ignore this, but Group F match 1 map
Spoiler:
2, range successfully balanced!
is one of the most enjoyable casts of a SC2 game I've heard in awhile, really funny
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07-09-2020 , 02:56 PM
Ro16 groups:
Spoiler:
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07-11-2020 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
If you generally find Tastosis annoying then ignore this, but Group F match 1 map
PERISH the thought,

Tastosis is AMAZING,

and if they weren't as charismatic and relatably as funny as they are, I wouldn't be here still.

I don't even play the game... Following the scene through TASTOSIS is what makes it fun for me
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07-11-2020 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
Ro16 groups:
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I thought it was kinda amusing that Scarlett got picked first, DRG got picked 2nd, and then TY used his trump card to get DRG in his group at the end.

Either TY has lots of faith in his TvZ and is gonna romp through his group, or we're gonna have to re-evaluate where we have Scarlett and DRG at as high-level Zergs.
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07-11-2020 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TJ Eckleburg12
PERISH the thought,

Tastosis is AMAZING,

and if they weren't as charismatic and relatably as funny as they are, I wouldn't be here still.

I don't even play the game... Following the scene through TASTOSIS is what makes it fun for me
I mean I totally agree obv but I know some people are like TASTELESS DOESN'T EVEN PLAY THE GAAAAAAME HE RUINS EVERYTHING

Sometimes my gf will watch the west coast-friendly Friday night groups with me and Tastosis are the only reason she finds it remotely tolerable
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07-13-2020 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TJ Eckleburg12
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I thought it was kinda amusing that Scarlett got picked first, DRG got picked 2nd, and then TY used his trump card to get DRG in his group at the end.

Either TY has lots of faith in his TvZ and is gonna romp through his group, or we're gonna have to re-evaluate where we have Scarlett and DRG at as high-level Zergs.
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drg has been playing pretty well but hes still newly back. he could be the 2nd worst player left. think scarlett wins that one by a lot, she hasnt looked good at all, besides winning some cheese, and even some she shouldnt have. easiest group by a lotttt imo
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07-16-2020 , 12:15 AM
Ro16 Group A loser's match map 2 one of the better Starcraft games I've watched this year
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07-16-2020 , 02:38 PM
yeah super solid game. definitely thought
Spoiler:
scarlett
was dead several times there.

on a separate and not as fun note - did anyone follow the sexual harassment drama going on in the SC reddit a few weeks back? It might have been sparked by the huge crap going on in the SSB community but it looks like JP and KaitlyN(your favorite goofy) have some weird NDA thing going on where kaitlyn is vaguely accusing JP of some sexual harassment stuff.

also rapid/reid is a total creep who apparently likes to talk about his dick to total stranger he just met. always knew there was something wrong with that guy.
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07-17-2020 , 04:21 PM
WCS Finals Group C spoilers

Spoiler:
Reynor is pretty good at this game.


Ro8 Bracket prediction

Spoiler:
Trap > HM
Reynor > Inno
Serral > TY
Cure > Maru

Reynor > Trap
Serral > Cure

Reynor > Serral
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07-18-2020 , 01:27 AM
I love these Hot6 ads, they're so weird and goofy and I have absolutely no idea what they're trying to say. There's like 3 new ones in tonight's group I haven't seen before and they're all even weirder and less comprehensible than the one with the two dudes high-fiving at the PC bang

edit: pretty solid group tonight, not quite done yet but almost all the series had some really good games

Last edited by goofyballer; 07-18-2020 at 02:48 AM.
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07-18-2020 , 07:03 PM
WCS Ro8 spoilers

Spoiler:
Reynor is a monster. So is Serral. Maru dodging Serral again LUL.

I can't wait for the salt when it's Reynor/Serral in the finals again, like they aren't the 2 best players in the world right now.
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07-19-2020 , 02:34 PM
WCS Ro4/Finals spoilers

Spoiler:
Korea just got Serral'd. Also, 6.5/7 on my predictions (right finals winner, wrong opponent).
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07-19-2020 , 02:40 PM
I'm happy .
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07-21-2020 , 12:24 AM
GSL Ro16 Group B

Spoiler:
Parting with a master class in PvT. Protosses just aren't beating Terrans these days and he looked very sharp defeating Bunny and Inno.
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07-25-2020 , 08:43 AM
GSL Ro16 Group D

Spoiler:
"He's going to cannon rush the hatchery in his main"
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07-25-2020 , 03:16 PM
That game was hilarious, top 5 GSL cheese game this year
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07-25-2020 , 10:47 PM
Some really wtf games out there from unexpected players.
Spoiler:
rogue is getting pretty wild


Here's the final bracket (GSL):

Spoiler:
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07-26-2020 , 04:19 AM
you guys ever model for this or bet it otherwise?
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07-26-2020 , 05:23 AM
Just randomly select a player from the OP race of the week given Blizzard's inability to balance the game after ten years
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07-26-2020 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
That game was hilarious, top 5 GSL cheese game this year
I don't think anything will beat the SoS proxy nexus, but yeah.

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Originally Posted by weeeez
Some really wtf games out there from unexpected players.
Spoiler:
rogue is getting pretty wild
Spoiler:
On the spectrum of Serral to NoRegret, Rogue has always been way closer to the NoRegret side. That's at least according to casters, who seem to never fail to mention how Rogue started out as a cheesy Proleague sniper (which I can't say I can confirm firsthand since I hardly followed the game during that era, but I certainly can believe it). But even in the time I have followed it, Rogue is definitely high on the list of players I would expect to pull out some crazy ****.


GSL bracket prediction

Spoiler:

DRG 3-2 Inno
Rogue 3-0 Dream

TY 3-0 Parting
Stats 3-2 Trap

Rogue 4-2 DRG
TY 4-2 Stats

TY 4-2 Rogue
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07-27-2020 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
you guys ever model for this or bet it otherwise?
We had a pretty fun 3 or 4 person $20 bracket pool for the WCS championship once!
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