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10-27-2019 , 07:49 AM
This year group stages definitely delivers.

day 3:
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So Reynor is the only one that can beat serral you say
He looked so good even tho this group was not the strongest.
In the interview Reynor said he was n1 on korean ladder and his expectations were high for blizzcon.
The confidence!
Heromarine has ways to go, last serie was dreadfull.
I would summarize classic style as: not fkn around.


bsball8806 predictions:
Spoiler:
group A spot on.
Time ruined group B
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10-28-2019 , 09:35 PM
Aight just finished watching day 4
Spoiler:
rogue looked strong as f.
other matches were really close


here's the finals bracket:

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that is absolutely frightening
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10-29-2019 , 03:22 PM
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10-29-2019 , 03:43 PM
Anyone going to BlizzCon? I’m gonna try to catch some of these matches live. PM me if you wanna meet up.
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10-29-2019 , 04:07 PM
Blizzard has no clue what they're doing anymore, so they're crowdsourcing balance from Reddit/TL/Twitch whiners.
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10-29-2019 , 04:57 PM
I kinda like the changes they proposed today. (This is coming from a Protoss main). But I like the new adept changes, mothership change, and the nerf to Nydus, infestors, and BCs.
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10-30-2019 , 02:04 AM
As best as I can tell, the reason Zerg is "OP" is because of infestors, yeah? Infested terrans remove the obstacles Zerg previously had with skytoss deathballs?

Seems like the balance will be restored and they'll go back to being the most underpowered race if Blizzard takes like two other things down with them.
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10-31-2019 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
As best as I can tell, the reason Zerg is "OP" is because of infestors, yeah? Infested terrans remove the obstacles Zerg previously had with skytoss deathballs?

Seems like the balance will be restored and they'll go back to being the most underpowered race if Blizzard takes like two other things down with them.
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New Ability: Microbial Shroud
Creates a shroud that obscures ground units below, reducing the damage they take from air units by 50%.
Is this independent of ally/enemy? Like if my mutas and hydras are fighting your banshees and marines, do both types of air/ground units give and receive the modified damage? Or only the Zerg's?
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11-01-2019 , 04:21 PM
lol that game 1
what a start for the finals!!
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11-01-2019 , 05:15 PM
First series:

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That was somehow really close for a 3-0 but simultaneously Serral never actually looked like losing a map.
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11-01-2019 , 08:09 PM
classic vs rogue

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usually always root for zerg regardless of who it is but i'm so happy classic went through to next round. what a series.
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11-01-2019 , 10:52 PM
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Serral and Reynor on the same side of the bracket is a tragedy, they need to play Bo7s only
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11-01-2019 , 11:00 PM
unbelievable game 5
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11-01-2019 , 11:06 PM
1st semi finals:
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I can't believe serral lost game 5.
what the hell just happened
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11-01-2019 , 11:08 PM
1st semis

Spoiler:
As much as it pains me to admit it, Reynor is right that mutas really do suck the later the game goes.
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11-01-2019 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
1st semi finals:
Spoiler:
I can't believe serral lost game 5.
what the hell just happened
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seems reynor cant believe it either

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11-01-2019 , 11:17 PM
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That's why no one makes ultras in ZvZ. I guess serral thought he was so far ahead that he could just make a bunch of ultras and a move for the win
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11-01-2019 , 11:31 PM
Watched a lot of this last weekend and this weekend even tho its been years since I've played a game of SC2

Spoiler:
<finds out there is a blink templar upgrade>
Spoiler:
Ohhhhhh ****
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11-02-2019 , 08:03 AM
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Dark is so good!
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11-02-2019 , 08:27 AM
is there any hope of enjoying this game competitively without needing to hotkey everythign and micro every bit of the economy?

are there settings or mods that really simplify the actions?

i used to love these games but at a certain point it becomes more work than fun - watching the pros go is incredible seeing how they literally never have more than the bare minimum in resources - so amazingly efficient that i feel it sucks out any possibility for a casual player to have fun
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11-02-2019 , 01:38 PM
nathanias' caster voice is so annoying - why doesn't he just talk normally?
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11-06-2019 , 10:54 AM
RIP to this thread too i guess - anyone else watch?
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11-06-2019 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
is there any hope of enjoying this game competitively without needing to hotkey everythign and micro every bit of the economy?

are there settings or mods that really simplify the actions?

i used to love these games but at a certain point it becomes more work than fun - watching the pros go is incredible seeing how they literally never have more than the bare minimum in resources - so amazingly efficient that i feel it sucks out any possibility for a casual player to have fun
Depends on your definition of fun or competitive is. This is pretty much how my annual experience with stepping back into the ladder goes: I play zerg and like to think I have fairly decent basic mechanics, but I prefer to do suboptimal things like mass zergling/muta or proxy hatch shenanigans. I assume MMR gets reset after long absences, so my first couple dozen games or so are great fun. Then once I hit the 4400ish MMR level, I run into a brick wall of meta builds and fun time is over.

I mean, I've also seen GM level players get back into GM on fresh accounts by drone rushing every game, so I suppose anything is possible. I have a highly competitive personality, but my old man fingers can't execute well enough to break into that Master tier with any consistency using my preferred playstyle.

You will need to use hotkeys no matter what. I can't imagine playing SC2 with just clicking.

Some of the most entertaining SC2 content is the casting of lower level games. Those kids are having fun, not running build simulators to see exactly how fast they can get 8 hellions and marauders into my base to **** **** up. Does anyone who play remember the era of the Cyclone? Good lord I lost so many games to 6 Cyclones and 12 SCVs showing up to my natural to melt everything in sight just as my third was going down.


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Originally Posted by bsball8806
RIP to this thread too i guess - anyone else watch?
I watched just about everything but the finals. I most enjoyed the series between Serral and Reynor that involved the guy who went mass muta inevitably losing because of spellcasters. I was like, "Hey, that's what I like to do, and they insta-lose the game to one solid fungal just like me!"

Each of them did it, but Serral did it in game 5 and paid the ultimate price. Poor Serral.

I do love me some mutalisks.
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11-08-2019 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0

I watched just about everything but the finals. I most enjoyed the series between Serral and Reynor that involved the guy who went mass muta inevitably losing because of spellcasters. I was like, "Hey, that's what I like to do, and they insta-lose the game to one solid fungal just like me!"

Each of them did it, but Serral did it in game 5 and paid the ultimate price. Poor Serral.

I do love me some mutalisks.
Yeah, watching serral lose that game was kinda awkward since it's basically how I lose games when ahead.

Dark looked unstoppable this year but zerg as a whole really did look super OP. We'll see what next year brings.

Is there any official word on WCS next year? I know they confirmed IEM but other than that...
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11-08-2019 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Then once I hit the 4400ish MMR level, I run into a brick wall of meta builds and fun time is over.
Yeah I find this to be true for most games so I really can't enjoy them after reaching a certain level. It actually really wants me to develop a game that can't be solved ie there are randomizing elements in everything that there is no one size fits all build
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