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04-09-2018 , 11:21 PM
More Avilo: after last night's ****show, admins delayed the rest of the tournament until tonight because it was 3:30am ET. Fast forward to tonight, with Riddler up on Avilo 1-0, GAME TWO:

https://clips.twitch.tv/FunUglyChinchillaBudBlast

Avilo is oblivious to the scan going down on his raven clump, accuses his opponent of maphacking when they get hit with seekers LOL
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04-10-2018 , 06:11 AM
All you Zergs having trouble with Protoss need to watch game 2 of this series from the GSL Super Tournament (starts around 25:00)

Thank me later
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04-10-2018 , 01:16 PM
So I won a TvZ after being down in supply 113 to 45, and my opponent was pretty upset:




I felt pretty bad about abusing terran to beat this poor guy, so I queued up as zerg hoping for a fair rematch. My wish was granted. Mr barcode was once a gain able to get out to a big lead, but I went for a basetrade and was able to kill his last extractor before he was able to find and kill my last hatchery. Unfortunately, since the end of the game was so close, my opponent didn't get to the chance to properly talk **** before being eliminated
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04-10-2018 , 02:52 PM
link to replay of 113 to 45 game?
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04-10-2018 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TJ Eckleburg12
All you Zergs having trouble with Protoss need to watch game 2 of this series from the GSL Super Tournament (starts around 25:00)

Thank me later
That's the game I commented on earlier above (in spoilers): "I need to rewatch Solar vs. Stats G2, I have absolutely no idea how the second half of that game could have possibly followed from the first". I hesitate to say that this game should be some kind of guide - it's kind of a miracle Solar won that game. He was so dead at the 7 minute mark, and while I haven't rewatched yet to see what the exact mistakes are, I have to imagine it took a lot of them from Stats for him to have lost this.

edit: yeah skimming through the game again, it's so confusing. Roach-muta is not a thing and Solar never gets upgrades for his roaches (he did get +1 air attack, and he was finishing up +1 melee (???) when the game ended) against a Protoss with +1 or +2 attack...like, how on earth did this ever work?
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04-10-2018 , 05:37 PM
yeah i have no idea how he won that lol
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04-10-2018 , 05:59 PM
https://drop.sc/replay/7081105

fun game vs a random (protoss) on the ladder

clearly is trying to cannon rush but can't do that. then accidentally fully walls himself in, so as a result decides to build a hidden third base at the bottom left of acid plant with his scouting probe. also at the same time, goes DTs, which i scout, but then still builds 5 of them in an attempt to suicide into my third. to his credit, he saves them.

he then builds nothing but chargelot archon off two bases (the counter to this is mass roach + micro, right??) and then attacks until he has no more units.
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04-10-2018 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
he then builds nothing but chargelot archon off two bases (the counter to this is mass roach + micro, right??) and then attacks until he has no more units.
Roaches are good for their tankiness (queens too for the same reason + transfusions), but if you have the time + resources to add something else to deal extra damage, whether it's banes (for the zealots) or hydras or lurkers (lurkers prob too late because the den takes forever to build), that's good too
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04-10-2018 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
link to replay of 113 to 45 game?
https://drop.sc/replay/7083207
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04-11-2018 , 02:26 PM


hahahahahaha

(when Blizzard warned theriddler for prolonging the game/trolling, they also warned avilo about excessive chatting in-game - so naturally the next day, when they finished their series, avilo repeatedly accused theriddler of maphacking in chat)
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04-11-2018 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by whackmaster
how tf is this guy in masters?

also lol that he took the hidden cheesy base then BMs you after you beat him despite not scouting it
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04-11-2018 , 08:11 PM
In 20 minutes the first episode of THE PYLON SHOW with Artosis and Incontrol begins at https://www.twitch.tv/incontroltv

I look forward to enjoying ~3 episodes of this before Artosis gets bored of it, like with every other SC2 project he's ever embarked on
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04-12-2018 , 11:52 AM
https://drop.sc/replay/7097767

not sure if anyone enjoys watching lol protoss replays but:

cliffs: he builds a pylon outside my natural, then proceeds to build 3 gateways, but loses both the probe and the pylon. he then sends another probe, which immediately gets killed because he doesn't know how to micro or mineral walk.

he finally sends a third probe, which builds a forge and cybernetics core outside his new "natural" (all on one base), and starts mass producing zealots and getting cannons. he's actually not in a terrible spot, but for the fact that 0 protoss players know how to macro if their rush doesn't straight up win, but then for some reason just insta GGs ()
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04-12-2018 , 12:02 PM
I just found the map stats for all seasons. Anyone else look at this?

it appears my worst maps of all time are:
Akilon Wastes (15-29, 34%)
Cloud Kingdom (36-57, 40%)
Ohana (33-39, 45%)



who thought this map was a good idea? "sure, let's let every protoss and terran get a free third while at the same time making the map really rushable and with a lot of tight chokes for safe engages

edit: I'm 1-16 on this map. wat?


Last edited by bsball8806; 04-12-2018 at 12:03 PM. Reason: found a worse one
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04-13-2018 , 01:41 AM
I didn't even know that map report thing existed, interesting.

My worst maps with a decent sample size:

Akilon (20-23, 46%, HotS)
Shattered Temple (62-71, 46%, WoL)
Ohana (40-50, 44%, WoL)

I was surprised about Akilon tbh, because I remember liking that map quite a bit. Not surprised about Ohana though, since that was the prime map for the soul train and I was unbelievably bad at holding all-ins back in WoL. I'm kinda surprised I didn't have anything worse than this, but not a whole lot since I've never really considered maps to be as big a balance factor as they're typically made out to be.

Scrap Station (54-34, 61%, WoL)
Daybreak (53-38, 58%, WoL/HotS)
Bel'Shire Vestige (38-29, 56%, HotS)
Derelict Watcher (50-9, 84%, HotS) (LOL)

Apparently, I just ****ing crushed people on Derelict Watcher (the map bsball posted as being 1-16 on). I don't even remember that map at all. I'm not surprising about Scrap Station, though. I always liked that map, even though it was never considered very good for Zerg iirc.

Also, I'm amusingly exactly 50% on Xel'naga Caverns (66-66).

Last edited by templar rage; 04-13-2018 at 01:53 AM.
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04-13-2018 , 03:45 AM
I don't have anything too wild in WoL, but HotS:

- Vaani Research Station: 24-7 (77%)
- Secret Spring: 11-4 (73%) (I have no recollection of what this map is)
- Foxtrot Labs: 21-8 (72%)
- Yeonsu: 18-8 (69%) (I thought this was, like, the map of death for blink stalker all-ins but lol plat league I guess)
- Merry Go Round: 51-31 (62%)

No maps with a decent sample (>5 games) where I'm under 40%.

Also, this is my smurf's WoL data (didn't even realize I was smurfing that far back):



That's all the data, lol that game was easy I guess
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04-13-2018 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by templar rage
I was surprised about Akilon tbh, because I remember liking that map quite a bit.
Same, and like you Akilon is my 3rd worst map with decent sample (same as yours, 46%). Deadwing and Star Station both 44%.

I think Overgrowth is my single most played map - 49% in 93 games played across my accounts.
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04-13-2018 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by templar rage
Derelict Watcher (50-9, 84%, HotS) (LOL)

Apparently, I just ****ing crushed people on Derelict Watcher (the map bsball posted as being 1-16 on). I don't even remember that map at all.
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04-13-2018 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I don't have anything too wild in WoL, but HotS:

- Vaani Research Station: 24-7 (77%)
- Secret Spring: 11-4 (73%) (I have no recollection of what this map is)
- Foxtrot Labs: 21-8 (72%)
- Yeonsu: 18-8 (69%) (I thought this was, like, the map of death for blink stalker all-ins but lol plat league I guess)
- Merry Go Round: 51-31 (62%)

No maps with a decent sample (>5 games) where I'm under 40%.
i stopped playing before some of these but i HATED merry go round with a passion. though apparently i was 3-1 on it. lol me
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04-15-2018 , 12:43 PM
Some excellent games in ASL today.
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04-15-2018 , 11:21 PM
I just can't get into BW for some reason. Game 1 was pretty nuts, but games 2/3 (the other ones that TL reviewed as super good games) were kinda boring to me. Maybe it's just PvZ, seems like it's just repeatedly a Zerg swarm walking across the map while Protoss holds steady with zealot/archon/storm and they just bash against each other endlessly, and the game continues for 15 minutes after one side has decidedly lost.
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04-16-2018 , 08:50 AM
the one thing i've always liked about BW is it's far less of this 'calm before a single engagement decides it' and more like you described of constant fighting. for me though i don't see it is this huge drawn out process after the outcome has been decided as much because there are situations where one side comes back through various plays.
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04-16-2018 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
I just found the map stats for all seasons. Anyone else look at this?
where is this, i'm kind of interested even though i apparently haven't played a game in five years
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04-16-2018 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by templar rage
Some excellent games in ASL today.
GUTTED for JD
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04-17-2018 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
where is this, i'm kind of interested even though i apparently haven't played a game in five years
Go to your profile (click your avatar in the upper right), then I think Ladders -> (Statistics?) -> Map Report
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