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01-13-2016 , 12:36 AM
4 rax on WOL was op noob build

can't do it vs toss now because of mship core

you want match bobman?
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01-13-2016 , 12:40 AM
Oh man, I will get Karak to come out of retirement so I can cast the bobman-Fishnoob grudge match with him.
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01-13-2016 , 12:42 AM
Also, holy **** - apparently the SSL realized the error of their ways, because the entire tournament is now double elimination, starting (retroactively, even) with the round of 16.
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01-13-2016 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Also, holy **** - apparently the SSL realized the error of their ways, because the entire tournament is now double elimination, starting (retroactively, even) with the round of 16.
I guess we know who Korean organized crime was betting on to win SSL.
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01-13-2016 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
4 rax on WOL was op noob build

can't do it vs toss now because of mship core

you want match bobman?
I have played like 10 games in the past year, but definitely, as long as goofyballer and someone else cast the match.
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01-13-2016 , 08:46 PM
I'm in, not bothered about it being casted although that would make it more amusing.

I am diamond player vs zerg pretty much master in other two match ups
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01-14-2016 , 02:43 AM
Zerg late game is better than terran. I would suggest not letting Zerg get there in the first place, thats your counter to ultras
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01-14-2016 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Oh man, I will get Karak to come out of retirement so I can cast the bobman-Fishnoob grudge match with him.
in
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01-15-2016 , 01:02 AM
IT'S HAPPENINGGGGGGG

Ok what time is good for you guys? I'm generally available Sundays or non-Thursday weeknights after ~7 Pacific. I generally feel like doing it on a Sunday (planning around football) is most likely to work for everyone?
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01-15-2016 , 05:15 AM
I have no work for 8 or 9 days so any time i'm awake which varies. Sunday night should be fine although i would prefer next a weekday evening as I have social **** this Sunday to do.

have beat all zergs except for 1 bane bust in last ten games (fast 33 marine seige tank max out (9:30-1030) into mass liberators) Ive been runnong good on map picks being dusk towers or the other 2 player macro one. getting wrecked by protoss cheese now. This guy disrupot dropped, killed workers then went home after getting oracle kills, and put me on tilt - Ulrea, so I immediately pushed, into a stasis on the narrow walkway followed by double forcefield to lock me in a disrupot ball to KO my army one shot.

Other games pretty much boiled down to guessing correctly where the warp prism would poke.

Last edited by Mt.FishNoob; 01-15-2016 at 05:22 AM.
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01-15-2016 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
IT'S HAPPENINGGGGGGG

Ok what time is good for you guys? I'm generally available Sundays or non-Thursday weeknights after ~7 Pacific. I generally feel like doing it on a Sunday (planning around football) is most likely to work for everyone?
I'm out of town this weekend, but any time next Sunday should work.
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01-15-2016 , 01:58 PM
Oh man oh man. Not again.

Dude if you're playing some games Karak let's get on Skype and play a few.
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01-16-2016 , 11:00 AM
Next Sunday is fine but after that I'm back to work so no more sc2

I will be playing tonight after my tournament grind finishes (12 hours or so) if anyone wants games or practice
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01-16-2016 , 08:39 PM
Catching up on some GSL, Bomber vs Seed g2 spoiler:

Spoiler:
Bomber loses like 23 SCVs to adept warp prism harass and somehow survives the big adept-sentry-immortal-stalker timing that I guess every Protoss in the world is doing right now to Terran and is actually in a pretty strong position - down 9 workers still but MULEs are good so he's close in economy, starting a 4th CC while P is still on 3 bases, and has a solid (43-18) army supply lead and +1 attack, working on 2/1 while Protoss has no forges.

Meanwhile, Seed (who to be fair, had a big bank that wasn't reflected in his army supply yet) just warps in a ****load more gateway units and attacks again with a bunch of adepts and stalkers, now with an army supply lead of 92-70. Tasteless, who had been talking during the game about the balance situation and how Terrans are struggling a lot against adept-heavy Protoss armies, just starts laughing uncontrollably as Seed stomps Bomber's army to win the game.

I do feel a little bad for Terrans in that matchup, they can't even stay alive long enough for disruptors to come out and wreck their bio armies.

Kinda feels like the resonating glaives (adept +45% attack speed) upgrade should just be deleted. There's no reason that adepts should be good against literally everything, but they are, so we don't even see Protoss make zealots anymore unless they're going chargelot-archon vs Zerg. Normally the weakness of an adept is that even though they're tanky like zealots (both have 150 total hp/shields), they don't do enough damage (6.2 dps) against non-light units - but after the upgrade, they do 9dps base and 20.7dps against light units.

Last edited by goofyballer; 01-16-2016 at 08:49 PM.
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01-17-2016 , 07:10 AM
Opening cyclone or siege tank is worse than widow mines because of the adept threat, need those widow mine hits, bomber streaming just now and wrecked huge amount of adepts with widow mines, marines also suck now that tosds makes hardly any zealot,

adept will get -1 damage nerf is rumoured
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01-18-2016 , 06:35 AM
Mostly for sixfour - Tastosis are broadcasting Zero v Effort in Brood War right now and 6k people are watching - http://www.twitch.tv/gsl

(winner plays Bisu later this week in the finals of this tournament, they'll also cast that)
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01-18-2016 , 11:39 AM
I take back everything bad I ever said about roach v roach...
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01-18-2016 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Mostly for sixfour - Tastosis are broadcasting Zero v Effort in Brood War right now and 6k people are watching - http://www.twitch.tv/gsl
was at work, but thanks anyway. will be away for the weekend for the final as well - i guess from your link the final will be on twitch as well? not even going to try to get afreeca to work on my phone
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01-18-2016 , 04:36 PM
There's a vod here: http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/v/36168102

I would imagine the finals will be streamed on GSL channel too given that they did it last night and a lot of people watched.
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01-19-2016 , 08:53 PM
Bah that was amazing. Thanks for the VOD.
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01-20-2016 , 09:20 AM
Dunno what an sbenu is but they just stopped sponsoring
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01-20-2016 , 01:33 PM
Cliffs from what I've learned on TL over time:
- SBENU is a Korean shoe company
- their owner's nickname is Sonic and apparently he was a big BW fan
- apparently when the company became successful he was like "I'm gonna take all my money and save esports", sponsored SSL, sponsored StarTale (renamed to SBENU)
- unfortunately they were apparently doing a bunch of fraudulent **** that I don't totally understand and the company is now in deep ****
- no moar SC2 $$
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01-21-2016 , 04:27 AM
That last Ty vs. Patience GSL game, wow!
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01-22-2016 , 11:33 AM
TY played well. I facepalm everytime I see protoss go stargate, why not all protoss copy seed build at least one game. Toss not exploiting the adept upgrade just bad. Even if you know it's coming it's still pretty much impossible to come out ahead
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01-22-2016 , 03:10 PM
Dreamhack is on: http://twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2 http://twitch.tv/basetradetv

Balance change coming next week:

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Photon Overcharge:
Energy cost increased from 25 to 50
Duration increased from 15 to 20 sec
Weapon period decreased from 1.25 to 1

Adept
Damage decreased from 10 (+13 light) to 10 (+12 light)

Viper
Parasitic bomb damage decreased from 90 to 60

Spore Crawler
Damage decreased from 15 (+15 bio) to 15 (+5 bio)
The adept nerf is huge in TvP where 22 damage-vs-light adepts will now 3 shot SCVs and marines, but doesn't affect ZvP at all (adepts still 2 shot drones, 2 shot zerglings, 4 shot hydras, no change against non-light units).
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