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that entire group was just nutso. There basically wasn't a single game that functioned according to how starcraft "normally" plays out. And ofc, holy **** @ Jaedong-GungFu game 3

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06-01-2015 , 02:46 PM

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The best counter is probably cloaked banshee. I do siege tank rushes a lot in TvT. I do the single factory + starport for viking version. The build actually worked well back in wings when you had to research siege mode and in hots it's super strong. I can't believe it's not more common on ladder. I almost never lose TvT thanks to this build and proxy 2 rax reaper.

My terran stats:

ZERG OP

Yeah, 1-base siege tank is stupid good on the ladder. I think using the starport for 1 medivac, then 1 viking, then a TL either for a raven or for stim as needed is stronger than a direct viking though.

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06-01-2015 , 02:50 PM

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I've also tried 3rax Stim/Combatshield push at like 7 or 7:30 or something right when stim finishes with ~20 units and it seems pretty good. plenty enough bio to deal with 2 tanks.

TvT is easily my worst matchup, I'm just horrible, but I'm going to stop with the FE and play a bit more decisively.

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06-01-2015 , 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by schu_22

that entire group was just nutso. There basically wasn't a single game that functioned according to how starcraft "normally" plays out. And ofc, holy **** @ Jaedong-GungFu game 3

It's straight up criminal that we were denied a rematch of Jaedong and Has. NEVER FORGET

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06-01-2015 , 07:12 PM

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That just reminds me of how much I hated that Yeonsu/Polar Night/Frost/Alterzim map pool. Visually numbing and worse to play on.

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06-01-2015 , 07:37 PM

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tvt was like the only matchup i enjoyed; pretty sure decent macro and marine tank vs anything will get you to tvt masters

link for dem cannons vod??

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06-01-2015 , 08:06 PM

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schu_22

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oh ****, i'd never considered making marines and tanks

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06-01-2015 , 10:41 PM

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im assuming not sarcasm lol but it works well.. cant imagine 20 marines do well vs 2 tanks into gold+

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06-01-2015 , 10:45 PM

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It was sarcasm. Come on man.

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06-01-2015 , 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gamboneee

tvt was like the only matchup i enjoyed; pretty sure decent macro and marine tank vs anything will get you to tvt masters

link for dem cannons vod??

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06-02-2015 , 11:57 AM

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for people whining about swarm hosts being awful now watch rogue vs herO from proleague today

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06-02-2015 , 12:29 PM

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Will do. My guess:
a.) Rogue comes out with a prepares build for a specific map that only works cause Hero didn't expect it
b.) Rogue gets an early lead and uses flying SH harassment on something like the Iron Fortress 3rd/4th bases to extend that lead

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06-02-2015 , 01:05 PM

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SS, could you drop a Youtube link? TL doesn't have the spoiler-free vods listed yet and finding it on Youtube inevitably results in spoilers.

Meanwhile, the best of 69 between Snute and Bunny is like halfway through: http://twitch.tv/basetradetv

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06-02-2015 , 02:34 PM

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That is just such an awesome showmatch event.

edit - oh man they must be using an enormous map pool, first game I tune in to see is on Gwangalli Beach lol. I wonder if they've played on Fruitland yet

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06-02-2015 , 02:35 PM

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https://youtu.be/ABtDrAC6EjI?t=279

skips pre game talk. still has scoreline at top

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06-02-2015 , 02:50 PM

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According to liquipedia Fruitland was the first map

Thanks SS, will check it out!

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06-02-2015 , 02:50 PM

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Oh man, they're gonna play Scrap Station and I'll be back at work

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06-02-2015 , 07:02 PM

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Rogue-Hero thoughts:

Spoiler:

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06-02-2015 , 07:08 PM

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I love how I have nostalgia for Starcraft maps. That's so weird.

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06-02-2015 , 07:19 PM

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looooooooool @ Snute

Game 54 on Waystation, watch it

Spoiler:

edit:

Spoiler:

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06-02-2015 , 07:33 PM

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つ ◕_◕ ༽つ build probe つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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06-02-2015 , 07:37 PM

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It was sarcasm. Come on man.

I was in the middle of demolishing beers. I still think it's best by default and you can't learn macro by cheesing. Or open banshees and just play from ahead half the time

Lol that game was sick goofy

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06-02-2015 , 07:40 PM

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My macro is actually not terrible for my league (always can improve obv), I am just trying to find an opener that gives me some focus and lets me put the pressure on my opponent rather than sitting back all the time. And usually, marine/tank/medivac makes up 90% of my army.

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06-02-2015 , 09:20 PM

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Lol that game was sick goofy

Oh, I totally agree, it was really entertaining. Casters being like "Vipers? Brood lords? ...or swarm hosts, LOL JK" when he put the infestation pit down knowing what was coming was great. But I don't think that game means that the new swarm hosts are, like, good or super viable or anything.

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06-03-2015 , 03:19 AM

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ah yeah ok then reaper or banshee open is good. a clean cloak open will put you so ahead so often, im sure youve been on the other side a few times and know how it goes. i take the same approach as w chess being that my open might not be by the book but if i do it the same every time ill still get good at it and my end goal is not to be a grandmaster (in either^_^) so it works for me. just do the same each time but with 150+ apm and good things happen

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