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I play on the starter edition cause I'm backed up on steam and shouldn't really be buying games. But yeah...I meant spores not spire duh lol. Yeah I def need more base defenses for random harass as that's what I'm seeing a lot and I feel I'm a little slow on moving my queens.

Edit- Had this post typed up and didn't see the posts between. I never even think to burrow a few random zerglings to use as cheap scouts and block 3rds.

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01-27-2014 , 08:39 PM

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bsball8806

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Life/mc pretty much guarantees no chop

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01-27-2014 , 08:47 PM

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templar rage

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Goofy, you really need to stop arguing on TL. It just makes you look as ******ed as them. You're talking about equity to a bunch of idiots who think chopping a prizepool is equivalent to match fixing.

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01-27-2014 , 08:53 PM

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Yeah, you're probably right. It's just so frustrating to look at the community being filled with such a stupid amount of short-sighted ******s with no grasp of the real world. Every time I read about someone saying "well why don't they boycott" I want to punch my monitor.

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01-27-2014 , 09:17 PM

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Yo narwhal - you're arguing with these mouthbreathers about shoving every hand in poker tournaments when they think players don't try as hard to go from a $15k second prize to a $30k first prize.

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01-27-2014 , 09:24 PM

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templar rage

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Yeah, guilty of being a hypocrite there. If you want to punch your monitor when boycotts are mentioned, I want to when people try to imply money is the only reason pros are playing this game.

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01-27-2014 , 09:28 PM

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sure, at a cost of what 300 minerals

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01-27-2014 , 09:32 PM

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goofyballer

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But at a savings of about 20apm

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01-27-2014 , 09:37 PM

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bsball8806

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can i have the link to the goofyballer trolling

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01-27-2014 , 09:46 PM

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goofyballer

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I argue with ******s for a few pages starting here

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01-27-2014 , 10:04 PM

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sure, at a cost of what 300 minerals

270, but looks more like 1800 there. not a huge price when i assume a) you dont macro like pros, therefore having 300 extra mins is prob very common b) the info you *usually* get is worth way more than a mule. but bsballs answer is good too

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gonna read this now, but this spoiler alone sounds like quite the lost cause. altho at the wsop dont they disallow chops?

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01-27-2014 , 10:36 PM

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He wasn't really arguing about that. It was just a tongue-in-cheek comment by me about how he was talking way over the heads of the people he was arguing with. If the average TL user doesn't understand the difference between chopping a prizepool and actual match-fixing (as evidenced from the thread about CRS/DIG chopping in an MLG a while back), you think they'll understand what a player's equity in a tournament is?

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01-27-2014 , 10:44 PM

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yeah just got around to reading it, seems kinda pointless but i think neither side is right. i did like the collective bargaining/union parts tho.

100k for 1 person or ~5k for everyone? if they aren't hurting for money, the glory and significant score are probably more appealing. its not becoming the industry standard, so to say its really going to affect to sc2 economy is a bit of a stretch.

also to your example, people just flipping for winner post chop is far from uncommon, let alone never happened

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...oller-1407355/

greggy lambo mercy on flipping for 200k even

Last edited by gamboneee; 01-27-2014 at 10:44 PM. Reason: and at the bare minimum, daily online

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01-27-2014 , 11:28 PM

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Well, I just said I can't remember it happening. I didn't know about that PCA deal and I was a cash player when I played, so my knowledge of final tables is pretty limited, I suppose. Has it ever happened in a WSOP event, because those are the most comparable to SC2 in that the win actually means something.

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01-28-2014 , 12:01 AM

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like i said, i dont think you can chop official events, more sure for the main. pretty sure people wouldn't be happy to hear you think their ept/wpt/etc wins are less meaningful than wsops, esp since most are tougher fields, but i dont recall any big ones other than pca where it happened. not that i'm an expert on the others, so i could easily be wrong.

but its also not like any finalist is gonna have merson money, so even if they played for $1k im sure no one would be throwing matches. not sure the start of this discussion but i think it was with match throwing/not trying? lol

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01-28-2014 , 12:35 AM

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I don't follow "esports" close enough to pay attention to how the players make their money, but it seems that the vast majority of players make most all their money from playing/placing in tournys?

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01-28-2014 , 03:39 AM

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Just stopped a proxy cannon rush with a mineral line pull into speed lings ftw

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01-28-2014 , 08:37 AM

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bsball8806

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gambonee is definitely correct

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01-28-2014 , 03:27 PM

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Ra_Z_Boy

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LOL @ posting on TL.

I lurk there a bit, I have a few times been tempted to sign up usually when they talk about equity type probabilistic situations because my god, the average user is so amazingly ******ed in terms of those things, I am glad i refrain. Just look at people discussing MMR or the like. Painful. Maths/logic skills in the community are hard to come by. You get a pHD mathematician arguing stats with 13 year old idiots.

Do not want.

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01-28-2014 , 06:23 PM

#18896

templar rage

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The pathetic part is that the average TL user is almost definitely smarter than the average person in my day-to-day life.

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01-28-2014 , 07:14 PM

#18897

bsball8806

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what do you do? if that is legitimately true you need to find a new job

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01-28-2014 , 07:17 PM

#18898

Ra_Z_Boy

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Yeah that's a beat. I work in a rare place where nearly everyone is competent and intelligent. The drawback is the sheer amount of autism.

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01-28-2014 , 07:53 PM

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gamboneee

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who has a math phd?

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01-28-2014 , 07:56 PM

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Ra_Z_Boy

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Some guys on TL.

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