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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
This loses to pool first, baneling before speed right? I always do that vs either late expand or 10 pool.
Honestly it should lose to everything except 7 pool, but it just doesn't. The only DIRECT BO counter is 14 gas 14 pool. It definitely wins vs 10p banelings because your lings will be out at the same time as him, and he'll never be able to make banes. Once he does [make them in his own base to defend] just put on your micro shoes and detonate his banelings with a couple lings and then easily overwhelm his slow lings + queen w/e. They never get a spine when doing 10p baneling.
It looks like this:
http://www.twitch.tv/killerwalski/c/3418682
pretty sure he went hatch first (not 100% sure he did), but it's similar vs pool first into hatch. The only thing that stops it is a spine crawler... Amazingly people just don't build them? Note how I didn't go ape **** trying to kill drones/lings with my first 6 slow lings. Just try to dick with him a little bit until speed finishes.
Another vod of the usual outcome:
http://www.twitch.tv/killerwalski/c/3418889
And even when it fails it sometimes doesn't fail:
http://www.twitch.tv/killerwalski/c/3418837
I've seen people build like 3 spines and not cancel them. If you see them building 2 or more spines just start droning and keep your lings around harassing and preventing his natural from going down. Get your hatch down before his and if he hasn't taken his in reasonable time start making spine crawlers and hold an easy 1 base allin with queens, spines and speedlings, IE this game here (Well he did a 2base all in I guess):
http://www.twitch.tv/killerwalski/c/2269693
Note: On 4 player maps I change the BO slightly to getting only one set of lings at 10, then queen at 11, then 2 more lings at 13 to get to 15/18 before I pull gas and get ling speed per usual. The first two lings scout the two bases that the overlord didn't.
Remember the strength of the allin is when speed hits before him. It's incredibly important not to lose lings in the early harass before your metabolic boost finishes.
Also I would advise killing any enemy spine crawlers they might put in your base before they finish.