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also played a toss who was completely lost while i was dropping main/poking nat (yes, no 3rd) repeatedly. reinstates my belief that protoss is so easy and most people are bad at it

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10-29-2013 , 03:37 AM

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I later played a Toss who did a gateway fast expand on Polar Night (like, he did pylon at natural wall, but put a gateway instead of forge and finished the wall with pylon/cyber core). He also pylon blocked my nat, which always tilts me, so I decided to do a speedling-baneling all in off 2 bases. When I attacked he was just finishing a 2nd gate and had a stargate out with like a phoenix or two or some ****. LOL protoss.

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10-29-2013 , 03:48 AM

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the more clear answer is "lol zerg" because it doesnt matter what you do, zerg still wins

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10-29-2013 , 04:12 AM

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I did lose a game to Toss that went full base trade because I was a tard and was 1000% sure I put a proxy hatch down on his side of the map, only to see the "you will be revealed in x seconds "thing pop up" making me be like "wait wtf?" and then I lost my last building while trying to put down a hatch with one of the many drones I brought with me. So that's one way Zerg can lose.

Another common way: Terran.

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10-29-2013 , 04:49 AM

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lolol maybe. played a 2v2 tonight with my TPvPZ where it went basetrade. luckily hatches dont fly, and after ~2 mins of reveal they decide to not defend a single building across the map with ling/zealot against 15 blink stalkers and 4 medivacs of MMscv

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10-29-2013 , 07:04 PM

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On the subject of Koreans and English-speaking (I think it was from the WCS thread):

He's not too bad. We never really hear him speak it though.

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10-29-2013 , 08:28 PM

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Random note: one of my favorite things as Zerg is when Terran goes mech and floats a rax my way, because as a terrible scouter this is usually the first thing I see that tells me I should start making roaches and is really helpful advance warning of what's coming.

Corollary: making a scouting rax when you're going bio would be an excellent troll and possibly dupe bad Zergs like myself into making really bad compositions vs yours.

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10-29-2013 , 10:21 PM

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nah roach still beats bio

but yeah always find that funny too. esp if you kill it, they have to remake at some point. and as slow as it is, idk how scan isnt better

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10-29-2013 , 10:22 PM

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it is free scouting for a long time about what they are making and their structure timings

it is incredibly cost effective if you pay any attention at all to the zerg's base

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10-29-2013 , 10:56 PM

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nah roach still beats bio

lol, for like 10 minutes maybe and then Terran gets enough upgrades and medivacs to make them total dog****

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10-29-2013 , 11:17 PM

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it is free scouting for a long time about what they are making and their structure timings

it is incredibly cost effective if you pay any attention at all to the zerg's base

how is it gonna just sit above their base for more than 5 seconds? queen shooting it between injects alone will keep it away/kill it rather quickly.

i would think its a much greater utility sitting over a map path for the entire part of a game before hydras are out

and yeah goofy, only 50/50 serious there!

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10-30-2013 , 01:26 AM

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it takes like 200 hits from a queen or something to make it burn?

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10-30-2013 , 01:30 AM

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9 dps and 1k hp, so roughly. but it flies away on its own and if zerg just puts a building elsewhere its not a lock to see it.

just never have seen someone camp it above the main or something

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10-30-2013 , 07:01 AM

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9 dps and 1k hp, so roughly. but it flies away on its own and if zerg just puts a building elsewhere its not a lock to see it.

just never have seen someone camp it above the main or something

it is not hard to micro it to make it stay there.

it's basically a 150 mineral scan that lasts for several minutes...

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10-30-2013 , 12:09 PM

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yeah i mean i guess you're not wrong, just seems that between the time it takes to die, having them just "hide" tech, and needing to rebuild when you want to add more factories, it seems a bit strange. can you set it to patrol to ignore damage?

also seems like it would help more to camp it above half the pathing as it'll basically have 10-12 minutes of vision to aid your slow army. and ive never seen it in a game so didn't occur to me as the way to use it

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10-30-2013 , 12:17 PM

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It used to happen constantly when people proxied barracks (wasn't necessarily indicative of mech)

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10-30-2013 , 12:18 PM

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yeah, definitely know that with the failed 11/11

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10-30-2013 , 01:03 PM

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9 dps and 1k hp, so roughly. but it flies away on its own and if zerg just puts a building elsewhere its not a lock to see it.

just never have seen someone camp it above the main or something

It's definitely better to move it around the base (or off into a corner to pop back in every minute or so) rather than just camping it over the lair until it dies.

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10-30-2013 , 03:34 PM

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From TL: next Proleague to come in December, will likely have MVP, (LOL)Prime, and IM competing.

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10-30-2013 , 05:11 PM

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lol, for like 10 minutes maybe and then Terran gets enough upgrades and medivacs to make them total dog****

Mass roach could get you to masters level ZvT easily. All about dat macro.

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10-30-2013 , 06:21 PM

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Yea but it'll take more effort than it would from the Terran side.

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10-30-2013 , 06:41 PM

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From TL: next Proleague to come in December, will likely have MVP, (LOL)Prime, and IM competing.

How are they supposed to field a PL team only sending out Creator, Byun, and Maru? Surely they aren't going to send out any of their other players.

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10-30-2013 , 06:49 PM

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peehs time! name a prime player not named creator, byun, or maru

Spoiler:

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10-30-2013 , 06:53 PM

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10-30-2013 , 06:55 PM

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I wonder if we'll start seeing ESF players jumping ship to Kespa teams if they see an opportunity (like Parting, but en masse now that GSTL is dying and I'm confirmed the only person even watching it). Maybe Prime will try to poach some people from the deep teams like StarTale/Azubu? Or...

(lol I just saw this and had to post it. WOLF!)

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