lol

You honestly do nothing but troll my posts

What's your problem?

no actually i do read this thread and reply sometimes

for some weird reason you post the dumbest stuff i've ever seen

lol

I'm like 95% sure I'm a better player than you so the fact that you think my posts are stupid are kinda irrelevant to me.

The fact that you are an asshat to me however is an issue, but that's pretty easily fixed by adding you to the ignore list.

i do this build as terran most of the time:
as long as you pump out the mules, its a good build.

havent played in months and would probably easily win with both zerg and terran

are you sure about that? =/

stop being dickheads to each other

thanks

and grudgematch to settle it obv

Wanting a bit of advice. I'm a 30ish ranked silver terran player and I'm getting frustrated by the fact that every game vs a P or Z is just a <8min rush attack on me all in. TvT games I either manage to end early or I lose (usually) after the other guy turtles and gets 60 siege tanks.

What I'm most curious about is the level of play at gold+ leagues. Is it just more of the same or do the games actually reach the mid or late game frequently. I'm not having a problem dealing with these rushes it's just that I'm kind of getting bored scouting them, seeing a 4 gate, fast voidrays, a 6 pool, etc. and then having to respond by just pumping out units and winning the battle.

more realistic would be instead of costing gas, your terran insurance rates go up as long as your building remains in the sky

games that reach mid and lategame are results from both sides being able to deal with early aggression and defense. at higher levels you'll still see fast voidrays and 4 gates, but they'll be a hell of a lot harder to defend, and people will expand behind it even if you successfully defend.

they wont commit to an attack and just harass with the voidray which is infinitely more annoying.

basically you really have to just learn to deal with these rushes and kill them, or else when you move up in leagues you will play against people who execute much better, and just kill you with the same stuff. no reason for people to play a long macro game if they can just kill you with a quick voidray harass into 2-3 gates of units. the games will naturally become longer as both players become more adept at attacking and defending.

i know you said you deal with it fine, but no offense if you really are dealing with it and killing them, and that's all they're doing, you should be moving up the ranks incredibly fast.

And you could train a gecko in your rax who could save you hundreds of minerals a year on your floating building insurance!

gecko OP imo

Thanks for the good reply. I'm not claiming I'm good or anything, but I think I've been dealing with them well for my level. I started off low because I lost like all of my placement matches so I've been progressing, but in all honesty I probably just need to play more matches.

You'll probably still have to deal with big Protoss pushes, but the amount of zerg cheese may go down a bit. I don't think 6pooling is quite as popular, but I might be mistaken. The big thing to know is that usually even if you seem to get "allin'd" if villain doesn't insta quit afterward, he probably has some type of followup to try and salvage the game. So don't relax and assume you have the game won ^^ Good luck in your games!

It's good to crush souls imo.

i think at the really low levels there's a ton of cheese. then when you get up to gold/platinum people are trying to get better and play a more solid style. then when you get to low diamond you get all the cheesers again except now they're good at it. then when you get to mid-high diamond its a nice mixture. at least that has been my experience.

yeeaaa

< plat all zergs would either 6 pool or mass speedling push or roachy timing all in

after a while every zerg just macros cus i guess it doesnt work on higher lvl players? i duno *zergy tear for pwny*

just visited sc2ranks for the first time.

how do you interpret the map stats? i have ~800 games but added up in total the map stats sections shows maybe 70 games.

oh and brag almost top 1k in NA!

lost two games in a row microing my marines....loaded 8/15 all up in a medivac during big fight with void ray support. fml.

I have invented starcraft aquarium mode.

what you do is set an 8 player ffa with 8 very easy computer opponents. It is very similair to having an aquarium screensaver.

If you guys look at the build orders of the #1 players in your league I think you'll be surprised at how many of the outright cheese every game (like the game is decided one way or the other <8 minutes).

I've been in three different diamond leagues because of going between plat/diamond when switching races and it seems like the top of each division gets there through cheese. Now, these are usually newly formed diamond divisions so I guess it makes sense that the players that cheese get more points more quickly because cheese probably has a higher win rate and they are able to play more games because the games are so short.

Lowish diamond (1k-1.5k) is probably super-prime-time for people who cheese every games, because that's about where they'll get stuck. Once they start to get higher, they'll start to run into people who know what to do, and start losing more than they win.

If you keep getting placed in new leagues, that's exactly the set of people who will be at the top of your league.

Quick sample of the game lengths of the #1 player in my league (who is just under 3k points):

29 mins
12 mins
19 mins
21 mins
17 mins

Looked at a couple of the build orders, and definitely not cheesing.

Bonus pool is something like 2.3k right now. That's about where I'd set "lowish diamond".

All 1.1-1.5k means is they haven't run out their bonus pool, it could be almost anything.

In the current league I'm in the guy is at about 2800 points and historically these guys have usually been about 4-500 points above me so I guess I'd consider them mid diamond. Obviously my sample size is really small but I'm sure it has to do with them being able to put more games in and having a slightly higher win percentage when cheesing.

Its actually kind of funny, the guy that cheeses in my league goes baneling bust every single game. I was under the impression that baneling busts aren't effective vs toss.