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06-20-2013 , 09:59 PM

#16076

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by gamboneee

all i see is innovation op and im ok with that

Out of 15 players that have played TvZ in HotS in Proleague, only 4 have losing records

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06-20-2013 , 10:02 PM

#16077

Kirbynator

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thats because all the mid tier terrans have retired or got kicked out of teams

lulz

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06-20-2013 , 11:47 PM

#16078

gamboneee

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and to be fair, 2 are even and 3 are only 1-0

do you have zvt stats as well?

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06-21-2013 , 12:08 AM

#16079

goofyballer

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Have ZvT at 25-39, not immediately sure what the discrepancy is, there has been the occasional error I've noticed on Liquipedia (they had Dark listed as a Protoss for example).

Anyway:

TvZ
Crazy	1-0	100%
Mekia	1-0	100%
Shine	1-0	100%
Soulkey	6-2	75%
Hitman	3-1	75%
s2	2-1	67%
Roro	1-1	50%
Zenio	1-1	50%
hyvaa	2-3	40%
Jaedong	2-3	40%
Effort	2-6	25%
Hydra	2-6	25%
Revival	1-3	25%
TRUE	0-1	0%
Action	0-1	0%
Soo	0-1	0%
Songduri	0-1	0%
Zero	0-2	0%
Rare	0-2	0%
Savage	0-4	0%

That's looking pretty sad

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06-21-2013 , 12:12 AM

#16080

gamboneee

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yeah thats pretty sad, but to see roro only having 2 games played makes it seem even more situational than i thought at first. doesnt tl put these out every so often across all pro games? that would help add in all formats and not just snipe games and bo1s

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06-21-2013 , 12:14 AM

#16081

goofyballer

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Aligulac has this

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06-21-2013 , 12:33 AM

#16082

gamboneee

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ah alright. forget where or what it counted, but something that showed pvz was more imba than tvx

better than pre hellion nerf at least ^_^

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06-21-2013 , 12:42 AM

#16083

IHeartAsians

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looks pretty balanced to me

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06-21-2013 , 02:15 PM

#16084

goofyballer

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Crank is awesome.

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06-21-2013 , 02:21 PM

#16085

bsball8806

bff with birdman

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oh i do not miss those ridiculously hard korean beds

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06-21-2013 , 02:36 PM

#16086

goofyballer

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Had a ZvT game last night where at the 12:00 mark, I had 29 drones. He only killed 4 with reaper/hellion harass. He was up 91-56 in supply. I was on 3 bases.

Spoiler:

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06-21-2013 , 02:40 PM

#16087

Ra_Z_Boy

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Had a ZvT game last night where at the 12:00 mark, I had 29 drones. He only killed 4 with reaper/hellion harass. He was up 91-56 in supply. I was on 3 bases.

Spoiler:

How the ****? Did you just all in at 8 mins, keep rallying into his base for 4 mins solid without killing him?

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06-21-2013 , 02:45 PM

#16088

goofyballer

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lol nope, there's no excuse. I'm just terrible.

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06-21-2013 , 02:46 PM

#16089

Ra_Z_Boy

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56 supply at 12 mins without losing drones

. Are you back in Dia yet?

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06-21-2013 , 02:50 PM

#16090

goofyballer

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I did have 23 units lost at that point, which was prob 4 workers/1 queen/18 lings, so theoretically I had like 71 supply!!

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06-21-2013 , 02:54 PM

#16091

Ra_Z_Boy

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If it makes you feel better I lost a game recently where I had 160 supply vs 40 at one stage. DT drops at every base, no detection, sniped lair and pool, I forgot to make overseers. I try to defend the one base with a spore. I move out of position for 5 secs he snipes it. Sick crisis management.

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06-21-2013 , 03:18 PM

#16092

Kirbynator

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GOAT casting, MC + seed + stardust

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Then english interview by mc with taeja

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06-21-2013 , 03:39 PM

#16093

goofyballer

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This? http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/b/419878327?t=8h51m

I CANT UNDERSTAND THEM

eta: oh at 9:06:00 they start English

eta2: LOL at Targa trolling

Last edited by goofyballer; 06-21-2013 at 03:45 PM.

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06-21-2013 , 04:56 PM

#16094

Go Get It

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Yeah, that **** was great.

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06-21-2013 , 05:18 PM

#16095

NiSash1337

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lol at the german casting

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06-21-2013 , 10:26 PM

#16096

templar rage

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Signed up for 3 out of the 4 WCS NA qualifiers. Obviously it's time to GOAT it up.

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06-21-2013 , 11:47 PM

#16097

Kowalski

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Have ZvT at 25-39, not immediately sure what the discrepancy is, there has been the occasional error I've noticed on Liquipedia (they had Dark listed as a Protoss for example).

Anyway:

TvZ
Crazy	1-0	100%
Mekia	1-0	100%
Shine	1-0	100%
Soulkey	6-2	75%
Hitman	3-1	75%
s2	2-1	67%
Roro	1-1	50%
Zenio	1-1	50%
hyvaa	2-3	40%
Jaedong	2-3	40%
Effort	2-6	25%
Hydra	2-6	25%
Revival	1-3	25%
TRUE	0-1	0%
Action	0-1	0%
Soo	0-1	0%
Songduri	0-1	0%
Zero	0-2	0%
Rare	0-2	0%
Savage	0-4	0%

That's looking pretty sad

What's even sadder is when you ask yourself how many of these wins were due to some ******ed roach baneling all in vs 3 CC build order win, or some 2 base baneling bust vs CC first etc.

Whenever I play terrans that know how to macro and I don't do some roach ling all in, I'm facing an uphill battle... IDK maybe my ZvT game is just in a rut, but it seems to be the same **** when I watch pro ZvT's =(

Honestly, I just miss infestors not sucking massive dick.