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04-12-2013 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
FishtermerService was theorycrafting with me today after a game on his stream where he went mass widow mine against Protoss with a raven and a few vikings to kill observers. Toss built 0 cannons until like ten minutes after he started showing this composition. He decimated P's worker lines and barely held off a counterattack where P went around the mines with his army to T's bases (third and nat got taken out but whole army eventually died to mines), and at that point the game was over cause P couldn't clear out mines in his base anymore.

Based on this, FS has concluded that mass widow mine supported by ravens/vikings/hellbats is an unbeatable composition. Thoughts?
This sounds very similar to mt fishnoob's "unbeatable" strategy of banshee/raven
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04-12-2013 , 11:13 PM
how do you know your MMR?
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04-12-2013 , 11:25 PM
When are we going to get wed night fights back?
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04-12-2013 , 11:37 PM


That's right folks, I just beat a platinum Zerg playing Terran, a race I haven't played since like November and am absolutely terrible at now. How did I do this, you ask?



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04-12-2013 , 11:41 PM
Im pretty sure i could beat a plat zerg going mass raven....should we get rid of seeker missle too?
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04-12-2013 , 11:41 PM
i'm confused. didn't you make fun of his strat or say it wasn't very good or something?
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04-12-2013 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IHeartAsians
Im pretty sure i could beat a plat zerg going mass raven....should we get rid of seeker missle too?
I mean, that analogy fails because I'm in platinum league. Can you beat a [your league] player going mass [unit belonging to a race you're terrible at]?

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Originally Posted by rageotones
i'm confused. didn't you make fun of his strat or say it wasn't very good or something?
I've long been arguing that mines are OP TvZ. Which is a separate discussion from FS saying he solved TvP by doing that build against someone who took 10 minutes to think "gee maybe I should build a cannon against all these mines".
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04-13-2013 , 12:05 AM
strat actually seems better versus zerg IMO. cannons are better than spores, obs are invis, and oracles can give detection to other units.
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04-13-2013 , 12:06 AM
Yeah definitely, qxc already showed us that widow mines alone are good enough to kill one of the best Zergs in the world
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04-13-2013 , 12:47 AM
So you won an unranked game? Why do I care?
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04-13-2013 , 12:49 AM
the last unranked game I played I planetary fortress rushed my opponent. I'd love to know what strategy that zerg was testing out
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04-13-2013 , 12:55 AM
If you knew how to read screenshots you'd see that he was playing a ranked game
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04-13-2013 , 12:56 AM
so for some reason my experience and achievement thing is bugged and doesnt work...has anyone else had this probleM?
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04-13-2013 , 01:01 AM
Also,

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Originally Posted by FishtermerService
So you won an unranked game? Why do I care?
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Originally Posted by FishtermerService
the last unranked game I played I planetary fortress rushed my opponent. I'd love to know what strategy that zerg was testing out
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04-13-2013 , 01:17 AM
Youre just validating my widow mine strat. Thanks. Not upset.
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04-13-2013 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FishtermerService
Youre just validating my widow mine strat.
o rly?

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Originally Posted by FishtermerService
pretty sure i just beat TvP


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04-13-2013 , 03:18 AM


also thamel just rage quit on me in dota 2

LOL
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04-13-2013 , 03:21 AM
ok, was placed in gold and spent all day playing random, some thoughts:

TvT: Sky terran still good unit.
TvZ: Didnt play any but I assume the raven build probably still works, and if not, i can just make widow mines.
TvP: Gonna have to keep cheesing this matchup,**** toss

ZvZ: I like mutas...so I like this, I think I have a good feel for it.
ZvT: Im sticking with the infestors, probably with roach/hydra
ZvP: Tried to make swarm hosts, they dont seem to be very effective, gonna have to come up with a plan for this matchup, **** toss

PvP: got raped here trying to go some kindve oracle into skytoss opening, probably going to figure out some kindve 1 base play with stalkers, **** toss
PvT: never played it, dont have a single clue what im going to do either, although i hear storm is a good unit.
PvZ: Skytoss is pretty hilarious here, just going to have to figure out how to stay alive against better players.

**** toss
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04-13-2013 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by IHeartAsians
PvP: got raped here trying to go some kindve oracle into skytoss opening, probably going to figure out some kindve 1 base play with stalkers, **** toss
I bet GGI has some good 4gate builds he can teach you
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04-13-2013 , 03:45 AM
true, true, you right
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04-13-2013 , 06:20 AM
4 gate confirmed still a good build. I am 22-6 in PvP thanks to the good 'ol 4 warpgate rush.
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04-13-2013 , 06:45 AM
i really like the way they unlock the regions for you
NA im masters zerg but starting losing a ton
KR im diamond zerg and use it to practice zerg
EU im plat random and MMR growing.

makes it easy to switch races without having ur ratings tank right away
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04-13-2013 , 12:33 PM
Waiting on the fishtermservice/baller gay love fest to go into full swing. We may see some dong pics
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04-13-2013 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
If you knew how to read screenshots you'd see that he was playing a ranked game
so playing unranked still puts you against laddering opponents and will affect their w/l and points?
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04-13-2013 , 02:36 PM
Would be a sweet level if fishnoob and fishterm were the same people.
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