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08-10-2012 , 05:02 AM
Raven buff tho
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08-10-2012 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Raven buff tho
This will likely cause me to lose my future games against the guy I've faced twice on ladder that always goes mass ravens
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08-10-2012 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Deoxyribo
having troubless with zvt against mech.
any tips?
just play a similar style to ling/infestor zvt, but with a heavier early roach presence to threaten counters (thus forcing him to max out before he attacks) and defend against hellions or an early hellion/thor attack

you can get to hive at like 12-15 mins (depends on how he opens) and get BLs out pretty quick. for really heavy thor comps (which wont have many siege tanks if any at all) you can stick to a heavier roach comp and get neural

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Originally Posted by IHeartAsians
burrowed roach w/movement
no

roach bane is an option too
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08-10-2012 , 03:55 PM
with all the transitions between collosus and HT and back to collosus in ZvT, protoss would really benefit from using hallucinate more.
moreover, hallucinated HTs when terran has ghosts mixed in could be an EXCELLENT emp bait. the beauty is HT make no damage so he might even never know if he just snipes them/emps a bunch he'll just think "oh this guy's micro is terrible"
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08-10-2012 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah Onion
with all the transitions between collosus and HT and back to collosus in ZvT, protoss would really benefit from using hallucinate more.
moreover, hallucinated HTs when terran has ghosts mixed in could be an EXCELLENT emp bait. the beauty is HT make no damage so he might even never know if he just snipes them/emps a bunch he'll just think "oh this guy's micro is terrible"
Sentries are so expensive though and protoss really doesn't want to be dumping gas into snowglobes that can barely attack lategame
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08-10-2012 , 05:13 PM
So you want me to spend gas on hallucinate and make more sentries and give up guardian shields and ff's? All to hope that he blows a single emp during the short period of time my hallucination is still up?

I don't think so.
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08-11-2012 , 01:19 AM
WHO'S EXCITED FOR IPL TAC3 FINALS TOMORROW IN SF



TAEJAAAAAAA

(so many memories, that ace match vs bomber was sickkkkkkkkkkkkk)

Last edited by goofyballer; 08-11-2012 at 01:24 AM.
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08-11-2012 , 03:09 AM
Definitely the most excited I've ever been for a team league match. I usually prefer individual leagues, but I've watched a ton of this TAC. Hoping for a Losira all kill.
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08-11-2012 , 10:54 AM
Aug 13 at 10pm EST on Day9TV they will be showing the TvP battle report for HotS.
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08-11-2012 , 11:44 PM
For everyone not following live streams thread: IPL5 to host Code S Ro8 to the Grand Finals

Pretty negative reaction about trying to cram the last 3 rounds of the GSL into one weekend - can't say I blame them, but at the same time that would make it a pretty sick event to attend. Who's going to Vegas?
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08-12-2012 , 12:34 AM
I liked the photo you sent me today goofy
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08-12-2012 , 02:56 AM
<3
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08-12-2012 , 05:45 AM
A list of major engagements from a ZvT I just lost to a terrible player that I feel really gross about:

50 roaches (100 supply) lose to 37 marines, 15 marauders, 4 medivacs (75 supply), equal upgrades (+1/+1, he has stim though)

then 72 roaches (144 supply) vs 51 marines, 22 marauders, 4 medivacs (103 supply), my 2/2 vs his 1/1 and after he wasted a stim, the battle ends with my 26 roaches still alive and his ground forces gone - a trade of 92 supply on my end for 95 of his, despite the upgrade advantage and the wasted stim

next up: 39 roaches, 4 brood lords, 8 mutas (110 supply) take on 42 marines, 16 marauders, 7 medivacs (88 supply). roaches 3/3, terran forces 2/2. I clean up ground forces with 20 roaches, 2 mutas, 4 BLs left over (traded 50 supply for 74, pretty good this time).

grand finale: 44 roaches, 8 brood lords, 11 mutas (142 supply) take on 56 marines, 21 marauders, 5 medivacs, 4 vikings (116 supply). roaches have 3/3, terran ground has 3/2, I have my mutas try to target down the vikings...

AND ALL MY **** DIES, as he has plenty of units left over.

WHAT THE ****

(worth noting that the mutas died pretty fast from marine fire cause they had to come too far up to attack the vikings - but, I still had like 4 BLs left when the last of my roaches died, and he still had plenty of ground units. mutas dying was clearly not the difference)
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08-12-2012 , 06:00 AM
roaches against MMM?

Spoiler:
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08-12-2012 , 06:24 AM
On the bright side, just had a RvR that turned out to be a ZvZ where my opponent was favored. He put a lot of zergling pressure on early before I was ready for it and killed a ton of my workers, I tried to stabilize and build a ****ton of roaches, he must not be good at Zerg because the next time he came (lings/roaches) I had more stuff than him and turned him back. I went to hold the central watchtower (cross spawn on Entombed), he came at me with roaches and mutas. Oops, right, I should have tried to scout that. I killed the roaches, and having no other choice I frantically ran to his base with my roaches while trying to get hydras up at home...and discovered he had like no army left and easily took out his hatches, mutas firing at me the whole time.

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08-12-2012 , 06:29 AM
Oh, right...



God damn it, I need to learn how to use ****ing infestors already
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08-12-2012 , 01:15 PM
yeah stop making so many roaches against terran

honestly you could probably make nothing but ling/bling all game and do well against most terrans
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08-12-2012 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
A list of major engagements from a ZvT I just lost to a terrible player that I feel really gross about:

50 roaches (100 supply) lose to 37 marines, 15 marauders, 4 medivacs (75 supply), equal upgrades (+1/+1, he has stim though)

then 72 roaches (144 supply) vs 51 marines, 22 marauders, 4 medivacs (103 supply), my 2/2 vs his 1/1 and after he wasted a stim, the battle ends with my 26 roaches still alive and his ground forces gone - a trade of 92 supply on my end for 95 of his, despite the upgrade advantage and the wasted stim

next up: 39 roaches, 4 brood lords, 8 mutas (110 supply) take on 42 marines, 16 marauders, 7 medivacs (88 supply). roaches 3/3, terran forces 2/2. I clean up ground forces with 20 roaches, 2 mutas, 4 BLs left over (traded 50 supply for 74, pretty good this time).

grand finale: 44 roaches, 8 brood lords, 11 mutas (142 supply) take on 56 marines, 21 marauders, 5 medivacs, 4 vikings (116 supply). roaches have 3/3, terran ground has 3/2, I have my mutas try to target down the vikings...

AND ALL MY **** DIES, as he has plenty of units left over.

WHAT THE ****

(worth noting that the mutas died pretty fast from marine fire cause they had to come too far up to attack the vikings - but, I still had like 4 BLs left when the last of my roaches died, and he still had plenty of ground units. mutas dying was clearly not the difference)
ur upset
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08-12-2012 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
A list of major engagements from a ZvT I just lost to a terrible player that I feel really gross about:

50 roaches (100 supply) lose to 37 marines, 15 marauders, 4 medivacs (75 supply), equal upgrades (+1/+1, he has stim though)

then 72 roaches (144 supply) vs 51 marines, 22 marauders, 4 medivacs (103 supply), my 2/2 vs his 1/1 and after he wasted a stim, the battle ends with my 26 roaches still alive and his ground forces gone - a trade of 92 supply on my end for 95 of his, despite the upgrade advantage and the wasted stim

next up: 39 roaches, 4 brood lords, 8 mutas (110 supply) take on 42 marines, 16 marauders, 7 medivacs (88 supply). roaches 3/3, terran forces 2/2. I clean up ground forces with 20 roaches, 2 mutas, 4 BLs left over (traded 50 supply for 74, pretty good this time).

grand finale: 44 roaches, 8 brood lords, 11 mutas (142 supply) take on 56 marines, 21 marauders, 5 medivacs, 4 vikings (116 supply). roaches have 3/3, terran ground has 3/2, I have my mutas try to target down the vikings...

AND ALL MY **** DIES, as he has plenty of units left over.

WHAT THE ****

(worth noting that the mutas died pretty fast from marine fire cause they had to come too far up to attack the vikings - but, I still had like 4 BLs left when the last of my roaches died, and he still had plenty of ground units. mutas dying was clearly not the difference)
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Originally Posted by Thijs908
roaches against MMM?

Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Oh, right...



God damn it, I need to learn how to use ****ing infestors already
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Originally Posted by aK13
yeah stop making so many roaches against terran

honestly you could probably make nothing but ling/bling all game and do well against most terrans
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Originally Posted by Karak
ur upset
Confirmed.
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08-12-2012 , 03:23 PM
i love how goofy has single handedly re-energized this forum
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08-12-2012 , 03:33 PM
Goofy you watch all this SC2 when the **** was the last time you saw a korean or stephano zerg have 39 roaches (the smallest number you had in all your examples somehow.....) vs. a terran?

Just cause the only thing Karak ever says to noob zergs is that their mechanics suck and all they should ever do is try to max out on roaches as quick as possible doesn't mean you should listen.
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08-12-2012 , 04:47 PM
goofy, you do know that roaches are terribad vs upgraded bio, right?
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08-12-2012 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IHeartAsians
i love how goofy has single handedly re-energized this forum
i have to admit goofy's posts provide a fair amount of entertainment
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08-12-2012 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Xaston
Goofy you watch all this SC2 when the **** was the last time you saw a korean or stephano zerg have 39 roaches (the smallest number you had in all your examples somehow.....) vs. a terran?

Just cause the only thing Karak ever says to noob zergs is that their mechanics suck and all they should ever do is try to max out on roaches as quick as possible doesn't mean you should listen.
you clearly have no idea what im talking about when i say that, then

telling them to practice maxing out on roaches != telling them to max out on quick 3 hatch roaches in every match-up vs. every opponent

do you see why i tell them to do it, though?
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08-12-2012 , 06:00 PM
I never did it cause Karak said to













I did it cause filtersc said to
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