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07-06-2012 , 12:06 AM
on entombed you basically need to get drops or plan to take the entire map, make a spine crawler wall and win in a 55 minute game
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07-06-2012 , 12:43 PM
in this clip i very calmly discuss the current state of the zvp metagame

(i mad)

http://www.twitch.tv/karakstarcraft/b/323872145
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07-06-2012 , 02:26 PM
goofy,

I saw someone on reddit recommend this to a new Terran player. Perhaps it can help you:

http://www.youtube.com/user/filtersc/videos

i'd also recommend (probably first) watching d'apollo's terran tutorial videos:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...1&feature=plcp
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07-06-2012 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
goofy,

I saw someone on reddit recommend this to a new Terran player. Perhaps it can help you:

http://www.youtube.com/user/filtersc/videos

i'd also recommend (probably first) watching d'apollo's terran tutorial videos:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...1&feature=plcp
I point you to:

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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Pretty sure the next time someone comes into this forum and is like "gahhh I suck what do I do", we just point them to this vid:



I just did this guy's build against a gold zerg (first gold I've ever been matched up with a gold) and crushed him. It was hilarious.

The build, for those too lazy to watch the video:

10 supply, 12 rax, 15 marine/orbital, 16 expand, from then on...build marines and SCVs. If you have extra money build more rax. Keep building marines. Keep building SCVs. No gas. No upgrades. No attachments. No third. MARINES. SCVS. RAX.

Then you march out and crush.


And yeah, that series is super good for new players imo. I played a TvT a couple nights ago where at the start of the game my opponent was like "i'm such a noob you're gonna crush me" (and I did) and I recommended he look up those vids to get started afterwards.
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07-06-2012 , 03:01 PM
Pretty bm.
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07-06-2012 , 03:05 PM
He seemed grateful for the help!

Karak, just neural parasite the mothership you fish
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07-06-2012 , 03:45 PM
He'd rather mess up, stack his broods, and lose a ton, just so he can blame the balance of the MU than actually play well in late game.
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07-06-2012 , 03:53 PM
zerg gets way ahead:

Spoiler:
MAKE SURE YOU KEEP MACROING PERFECTLY DEFEND EVERY BASE DON'T CLUMP YOUR BLS YOU NEED TO HIT THE TIMING PROPERLY MAKE SURE YOUR SPINES ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE KEEP THE BLS SPACED DUDE PSACED! POP OUT SOME IFNESTED TERRANS TRY TO LAND THE NEURAL PARASITE MAKE SURE YOU REPOSITION THOSE SPINES YOU NEED TO GET GOOD FUNGALS DOWN MAKE SURE THE OVERSEER IS IN POSITION EVERY BASE NEEDS AN OVERSEER AND WELL PLACED SPINES ALSO MAKE SURE YOUR GREATER SPIRE IS SURROUNDED IN THE MAIN HAVE GOOD OVERLORD SPREAD KEEP SPREADING CREEP YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU REPLACE ENOUGH DRONES INJECT INJECT INJECT NEVER TAKE YOUR EYE OFF YOUR ARMY MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT # OF BLS/CORRUPTORS BASED ON PROTOSS AIR INJECT

protoss gets way ahead:

Spoiler:






a move






zerg gets far behind:

Spoiler:
gg

protoss gets far behind:

Spoiler:
make DTs, turtle to mothership, prob still win 20% of the time


however, in defense of balance, i do think perfectly play from zerg is always > perfect play from protoss in the late game. if they go in even, the zerg SHOULD win.

im not sure if that qualifies as solid game design, but over the long run i think that sort of balances it. obviously on the pro level where lots of guys play very, very well it's not good for protoss players. i do think protoss is a 2 base aggro race tho.

do note my zvp is my best match-up, and i dont think toss is imba or anything. if anything in the grand scheme of things, the odds slightly tip in Z's favor. i just find late game zvp incredibly frustrating.
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07-06-2012 , 04:02 PM
goofy,

you should watch d'apollo's videos if you havent already
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07-06-2012 , 04:14 PM
Watching now. Set graphics to "low" because "you don't get anything out of it"? gtfo!
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07-06-2012 , 04:15 PM
I thought most people choose to play on low
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07-06-2012 , 04:17 PM
Those people are probably trying too hard
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07-06-2012 , 04:32 PM
i prefer low, no shadows or reflections or other **** to distract me
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07-06-2012 , 04:38 PM
I like things to look cool and flashy. So I don't play on low.
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07-06-2012 , 07:27 PM
Karak, game 1 of FXO vs Complexity in today's IPL TAC3 might inspire you - lategame ZvP, Whale recovers from a position where he looked to be in bad shape to take out the Toss mothership and win with BLs + infestors
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07-06-2012 , 07:45 PM


I JUST WON A ZVP THAT LASTED OVER 25 MINUTES

ALSO



I WAS WAY BEHIND IN THE GAME AND MADE A COMEBACK

Developing...
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07-06-2012 , 07:47 PM
lol just watched the replay. dont want to post it because there's a moment in the game where i throw away a 200 supply army for absolutely nothing in return from the toss haha.

also toss players: when you cannon a 3rd, you need to make 2 cannons. 1 isnt enough. queens are pretty good.
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07-06-2012 , 08:07 PM
you rallied your queens to harass his 3rd and he only threw up one cannon?
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07-06-2012 , 09:15 PM
Post it
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07-06-2012 , 10:37 PM
Someone needs to tell all the Zergs that they aren't allowed to balance whine. That day has long passed.

Now is the age of Terran tears.
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07-06-2012 , 10:41 PM
This forum is dominated by Zerg tears though.
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07-06-2012 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by IHeartAsians
you rallied your queens to harass his 3rd and he only threw up one cannon?
im actually thinking about trying a mass queen/roach/corruptor build vs toss just for lolz

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Originally Posted by bsball8806
Post it
sigh, fine. http://drop.sc/216337

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Originally Posted by nullspace
Someone needs to tell all the Zergs that they aren't allowed to balance whine. That day has long passed.

Now is the age of Terran tears.
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Originally Posted by Karak
i dont think toss is imba or anything. if anything in the grand scheme of things, the odds slightly tip in Z's favor. i just find late game zvp incredibly frustrating.
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07-06-2012 , 10:59 PM
In one of my more recent TvZ victories my opponent complained of "same old terran s.hit" before quitting
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07-06-2012 , 11:06 PM
please dont use masked profanity or ill have to p.erma ban you

Last edited by Karak; 07-06-2012 at 11:06 PM. Reason: jk
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07-06-2012 , 11:12 PM
simply quoting him verbatim!
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