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12-22-2011 , 04:36 PM
Is there any way around the awfulness of mirror matchups from an RTS game design perspective?
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12-22-2011 , 05:43 PM
Just got the game today. Never even played the original. Going to try to get through single palyer then start up on multi :E
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12-22-2011 , 05:50 PM
Single player is great!

Tons of units/upgrades that aren't available in multi-player, also the single player plays in normal speed, where as online, it's faster speed.

It's so god awful to play in normal.
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12-22-2011 , 05:53 PM
Good thing there is an option to put it on Fastest =)
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12-22-2011 , 06:06 PM
What are you guys vetoing? Right now I've got XNC and Metal.
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12-22-2011 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
I don't want to jinx myself, but that 4gate that Zefa and Whiskey showed me is extremely powerful. I don't think I've lost yet when I do it.

Been playing Golds right now. 7-3 this season so far.

I hate playing without a bonus pool.
OMG EZ TOSS IS SO EZ

so mad...
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12-22-2011 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by aK13
Good thing there is an option to put it on Fastest =)
WHERE IN SINGLE PLAYER? WHERE GOD WHERE
DUDE?
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12-22-2011 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cadaz
Just got the game today. Never even played the original. Going to try to get through single palyer then start up on multi :E
are you on EU or americas? i have a friend who just started as well who needs a practice partner.
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12-22-2011 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by orange
are you on EU or americas? i have a friend who just started as well who needs a practice partner.
AM I NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR HIM ORANGE?
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12-22-2011 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
4 gate not very good against pressure that hits before toss gets his sentry out.
Sentries, what are those?
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12-22-2011 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by costanza_g
OMG EZ TOSS IS SO EZ

so mad...
lol zerg.
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12-22-2011 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackitos
AM I NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR HIM ORANGE?
you would absolutely destroy him. he's got like 20 games played lol...
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12-22-2011 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dlorc
My ID is in the ID thread at the top of the forum, I actually added you a while back ( and just messaged you in game ).
N1 hopefully we can get a game or two in if you don't mind just pwning someone.
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12-22-2011 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
Is there any way around the awfulness of mirror matchups from an RTS game design perspective?
Yeah.

Play Terran.
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12-22-2011 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain
Yeah.

Play Terran.
:P

You're saying Terran mirror matches are bearable?
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12-22-2011 , 07:59 PM
Well, I kinda like ZvZ now. However, that is purely a function of the fact I somehow learned how to micro ling/bane, so now I don't just die to it right away. Still hate it because now I can't win unless they ling/bane me

But yeah, I don't think you can ever really avoid the kind of stuff we see in mirror matchups. When both players have exactly the same units available, I think it's naturally going to boil down into one strategy. Then it comes down to who executes better. TvT only feels better right now because there actually seems to be multiple strategies that are a)viable, and b)different. However, I don't think this can last. IDK if Artosis is right and that one strategy will be mech, but I don't think we'll be seeing quite the variety we see right now for very much longer.
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12-22-2011 , 08:02 PM
I think so. I might be biased because I play T but even before I played it was the only mirror match up that I enjoyed watching.
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12-22-2011 , 08:08 PM
As far as watching: TvT > PvP ~ ZvZ.

And I might only enjoy watching PvP for the "I play protoss and want to see what the **** these good players do in this awful matchup so maybe I can learn something" factor.
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12-22-2011 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackitos
WHERE IN SINGLE PLAYER? WHERE GOD WHERE
DUDE?
I was just clarifying because someone who is new to the game might not know that you could change it =S.
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12-22-2011 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by orange
you would absolutely destroy him. he's got like 20 games played lol...
I lost to your bronze friend
TWICE
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12-22-2011 , 08:09 PM
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I was just clarifying because someone who is new to the game might not know that you could change it =S.
Oh ok. Man, I want to play campaign in faster mode, so bad!

Normal speed so sucks. Big fat donkey dick
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12-22-2011 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackitos
Oh ok. Man, I want to play campaign in faster mode, so bad!

Normal speed so sucks. Big fat donkey dick
Wait now I don't know if you're trolling or not =(
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12-22-2011 , 08:25 PM
I'm serious.

Can you speed up the campaign speed or not? I've played like 25 missions on normal speed + achievement hunting
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12-22-2011 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackitos
I'm serious.

Can you speed up the campaign speed or not? I've played like 25 missions on normal speed + achievement hunting
Yes you can. I haven't been on SC2 in a long time but under "Gameplay" in options there should be a drop down menu for "Game Speed" when you're in a campaign mission.
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12-22-2011 , 08:47 PM
I thought game speed was locked for campaign, but I just tested and it wasn't.
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