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12-21-2011 , 10:58 PM
****ing zergs have been getting stupidly lucky with their hatch first bull**** against me, sneaking it past my scout probe. And once I see it I just go into allin mode if I don't already have a forge up to cannon rush the expo. It's like HERP A DERP you have 4 minutes to kill this or you just ****ing lose the game. Ok bro sounds good to me, I'll see you in hell!
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12-21-2011 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
****ing zergs have been getting stupidly lucky with their hatch first bull**** against me, sneaking it past my scout probe. And once I see it I just go into allin mode if I don't already have a forge up to cannon rush the expo. It's like HERP A DERP you have 4 minutes to kill this or you just ****ing lose the game. Ok bro sounds good to me, I'll see you in hell!
What rank are you?

And when they go hatch first 7 gate arrrr in?
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12-21-2011 , 11:07 PM
lol, 7 gate who does that? 9 gate fo lyfe.
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12-21-2011 , 11:24 PM
5 gates errday. More than that off of one base = lols
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12-21-2011 , 11:25 PM
I'm middling diamond AFAIK. Still getting back in the hang of 1v1 ladder.
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12-21-2011 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gospy
lol, 7 gate who does that? 9 gate fo lyfe.
Zefa taught me a 7 gate, its all I know.

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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
I'm middling diamond AFAIK. Still getting back in the hang of 1v1 ladder.
Do you pylon scout? I don't know how you could miss his hatch unless its on TD or another big map.

Also I never pylon block, because I suck, and I still have a good win rate with a 7 gate. And Gospy thinks 7 gate is old too, so imagine a good 9 gate.
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12-21-2011 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
Zefa taught me a 7 gate, its all I know.



Do you pylon scout? I don't know how you could miss his hatch unless its on TD or another big map.

Also I never pylon block, because I suck, and I still have a good win rate with a 7 gate. And Gospy thinks 7 gate is old too, so imagine a good 9 gate.
Yeah every time it happens I pylon -> scout, check his natural, go to see if he's got an early pool down and he somehow ninjas a drone over to his natural to put the hatch down.
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12-21-2011 , 11:48 PM
Pylon blocking is really easy, you just put 3 pylons in the right spot to block his choke (can even send a 2nd probe to do it while the first is distracting him if he's being really pesky), make 2 cannons a bit back that can cover the wall and put a pylon behind the cannons to support them once the walling pylons are killed. And then I just stay on one base and go stalker/immortal/sentry usually, and contain him while looking out for nydus.
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12-22-2011 , 12:09 AM
I don't want to jinx myself, but that 4gate that Zefa and Whiskey showed me is extremely powerful. I don't think I've lost yet when I do it.

Been playing Golds right now. 7-3 this season so far.

I hate playing without a bonus pool.
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12-22-2011 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
I don't want to jinx myself, but that 4gate that Zefa and Whiskey showed me is extremely powerful. I don't think I've lost yet when I do it.

Been playing Golds right now. 7-3 this season so far.

I hate playing without a bonus pool.
Yeah, 1 gas 4 gate is really strong unless the opponent has force fields, then you need sick micro to get up the ramp. If you have good unit control, it's so hard to beat.

I've been doing PvP's with the intention of 3g/robo or 3g/blink, but my core is always done way before theirs, or whatever, so I just end up 4 gating because I know I'll be done before they are
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12-22-2011 , 12:21 AM
FF don't even matter when you're putting 2 pylons next to their ramp. Even if they FF you out when you try to move up, they won't have enough firepower to kill both pylons. And they will only have 1 FF so after they burn it, they are screwed. Walk up, warp in, game over.

If you're at the Bronze/Gold level (different accounts) you should do it.

4gate to Diamond afaik.
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12-22-2011 , 12:22 AM
Accidentally queue up for a ladder game as terran, roll toss

Spoiler:
5 rax stim MM rush with siege tanks
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12-22-2011 , 12:27 AM
The protoss race honestly doesn't even scare me, as a very unrefined terran player. Early bio pressure into siege tank bombardment, EZ game.
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12-22-2011 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
FF don't even matter when you're putting 2 pylons next to their ramp. Even if they FF you out when you try to move up, they won't have enough firepower to kill both pylons. And they will only have 1 FF so after they burn it, they are screwed. Walk up, warp in, game over.

If you're at the Bronze/Gold level (different accounts) you should do it.

4gate to Masters afaik.
Fyp

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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
Yeah every time it happens I pylon -> scout, check his natural, go to see if he's got an early pool down and he somehow ninjas a drone over to his natural to put the hatch down.
Scout his main first then check his expand or snap place a pylon down then scout his main go back to his natural, assuming no 7 pool, cancel first pylon and place a 2nd?

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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
I don't want to jinx myself, but that 4gate that Zefa and Whiskey showed me is extremely powerful. I don't think I've lost yet when I do it.

Been playing Golds right now. 7-3 this season so far.

I hate playing without a bonus pool.
Ahhhh the zefa gate, his 4 gate is still better than mine.

You will make plat easy with a good 4 gate. It's great to even 4 gate zerg, but that goes away in diamond. And I didn't know people tried a 4 gate with 2 gas? Seems like it would always be ultra late.

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The protoss race honestly doesn't even scare me, as a very unrefined terran player. Early bio pressure into siege tank bombardment, EZ game.
They don't 4 gate do they. Dummies.
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12-22-2011 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackitos
Just get +1 attack with all the extra minerals! :P
So 3g expo on XNC?
Ya pretty much, or you can do some sort of 1g stargate expo or something. If you find a zerg who doesn't veto that map it means he'll just all in you anyways so better be safe anyways. I've seen Huk etc do a 1 g expo on that map but hes a better man than I.
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12-22-2011 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
They don't 4 gate do they. Dummies.
4 gate not very good against pressure that hits before toss gets his sentry out.
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12-22-2011 , 01:32 AM
I don't get the point to 4 gating to masters or diamond.

You get there with ****ty control and no concept of what the **** is going on. You just blind 4 gate or blind FFE into blind 7 gate every game.

Congrats. And then when you lose, you're just like "wow, I should have made more units or not pushed into that choke."

Never mind the fact, that if you scouted and reacted to what you saw, the game never would have been close. Meh, I don't care
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12-22-2011 , 01:40 AM
U jelly?
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12-22-2011 , 01:42 AM
I keep saying this but I really need to just switch to terran.
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12-22-2011 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
U jelly?
Naa, I'd get crushed in plat+ =/
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12-22-2011 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackitos
I don't get the point to 4 gating to masters or diamond.

You get there with ****ty control and no concept of what the **** is going on. You just blind 4 gate or blind FFE into blind 7 gate every game.

Congrats. And then when you lose, you're just like "wow, I should have made more units or not pushed into that choke."

Never mind the fact, that if you scouted and reacted to what you saw, the game never would have been close. Meh, I don't care
umad dat u no 4gate properry?

My "4gate to Diamond" was a joke towards Go Get It because all he ever did was 4gate. Then he learned that joke of a build called the FFE and made it to Masters. Probabry 4gated to Masters too.

But no really, Platinum is like Gold players who can macro properly, but still can't really micro the best or have some leaks in their builds.

I'm expecting to be promoted back to Platinum fairly quickly as long as I keep playing. Before I dropped my MMR I was probably mid-high Platinum.
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12-22-2011 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
umad dat u no 4gate properry?

My "4gate to Diamond" was a joke towards Go Get It because all he ever did was 4gate. Then he learned that joke of a build called the FFE and made it to Masters. Probabry 4gated to Masters too.

But no really, Platinum is like Gold players who can macro properly, but still can't really micro the best or have some leaks in their builds.

I'm expecting to be promoted back to Platinum fairly quickly as long as I keep playing. Before I dropped my MMR I was probably mid-high Platinum.
Oh, I got the joke. I have the same 4 gate build and I rarely lose when I use it too. I do lose when the person I am playing has better unit control than me and fends off the initial attack though.

I can macro well enough to be where i am, I have leaks in unit control and some of my builds are leaky. It's why I practice them all!

Last edited by Jackitos; 12-22-2011 at 02:10 AM. Reason: Ain't even mad, brah!
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12-22-2011 , 04:46 AM
i wish 4 gate didnt exist
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12-22-2011 , 07:19 AM
I hate Ghosts in PvT and I really really really hate them in ZvT.

I won the game but for real these ghosts I could never catch them(They survived like 15 minutes).
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12-22-2011 , 07:44 AM
I`m 12:2 with Zerg in Gold time for Platin IMO.

Just had a funny game I had roach/infestor, opponent roach/infestor/Broodlords, I stomp the ground army and Fungal + Infestedterrans vs the broods. Then I outran the broodlords on creep with massroaches and just killed all his bases.
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