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10-13-2011 , 07:44 AM
BM vid ? what you doing now karak?

Going Destiny style bm'ing? hahaha. Hope to see some high level insults then
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10-13-2011 , 07:53 AM
this might be my best vid yet so im trying to make the resolution perfect (it keeps ****ing up for some reason) and will wait til tmw to upload. need to tweak a few things.
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10-13-2011 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JStunna
If you're looking for teammates for team games, you may find the bnet chat channels useful.
You still play JStunna? I thought you quit because I never saw you in the 2+2 channel anymore.
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10-13-2011 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
ok i need some serious help from protoss/zerg players.

i have lost 3 30+ minute ZvPs in the last 2 days on tal'darim altar (2 of which were 45+ minutes) where i have had MASSIVE ****ing leads. i simply cannot win on this map. period. vs terran vs zerg vs protoss. not at all. i figure there must be something wrong with me since this is a "zerg favored map."

example:



take a close look at the units above. do the math. consider that i lost this game and it wasnt even REMOTELY close. the toss just turtles really hard on2 distant bases while i kill his entire main, then chronos out a bunch of voids... has ONE ****ING VOID RAY left after all my corruptors die and then he kills a ****ton of bls while running zealots at all my bases and GG.

i mean what am i doing wrong? i just dont understand it?

ill post the 2 replays if anyone wants to see them, but it's just absolutely pathetic that ive spent over 2 hours of my life in the last 2 days playing really well in zvps just to lose them to some absurd all-in in the end.

and it's a general question really, not a strategic question. why cant i close? am i ****ing ******ed? what is the deal? i find myself with a massive BL/corruptor army and then all my bases die because it's a slow ****ing army and 6 blink stalkers and 8 zealots run around killing everything. is BL/corruptor just not viable on tal'darim altar?

and ive started making 5 spines + 2 spores standard on every base on tal'darim altar.... and i still lose my expos to DTs. they make 6-12 at a time. what defense is there to that? im clueless and want to veto the map, but i feel like vetoing tal'darim altar as a zerg is probably pretty dumb. but i guess im so ****ing bad at this game that i have to.

edit lol according to SC2 gears, my winrate on tal'darim altar is 37%... the lowest of any other map... lower than even typhon peaks, abyssal caverns and backwater gulch. guess i should just do myself a favor and veto it.
post replay.

it's really important to have both an ol at most all of the bases on the map (i know this is difficult). have a small pack of lings ready to just hunt down expos and contain map control. a way of starving him out is also using nyduses if you can't move through the center.

i also think that once you're on several bases, having an overseer > a spine...most players will just send DTs alone w/o anti air.
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10-13-2011 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chillypill
if there was a grandmaster legue in 2v2 i guess we were in it. Though i must admit im a bit carryed. My teammate is a beast and he ofent win 1v2 when they do some silly rush and kills me. Actually we havent played very much 2v2 in some time and are like rank 30 now :/
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10-13-2011 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
ok i need some serious help from protoss/zerg players.

i have lost 3 30+ minute ZvPs in the last 2 days on tal'darim altar (2 of which were 45+ minutes) where i have had MASSIVE ****ing leads. i simply cannot win on this map. period. vs terran vs zerg vs protoss. not at all. i figure there must be something wrong with me since this is a "zerg favored map."

example:



take a close look at the units above. do the math. consider that i lost this game and it wasnt even REMOTELY close. the toss just turtles really hard on2 distant bases while i kill his entire main, then chronos out a bunch of voids... has ONE ****ING VOID RAY left after all my corruptors die and then he kills a ****ton of bls while running zealots at all my bases and GG.

i mean what am i doing wrong? i just dont understand it?

ill post the 2 replays if anyone wants to see them, but it's just absolutely pathetic that ive spent over 2 hours of my life in the last 2 days playing really well in zvps just to lose them to some absurd all-in in the end.

and it's a general question really, not a strategic question. why cant i close? am i ****ing ******ed? what is the deal? i find myself with a massive BL/corruptor army and then all my bases die because it's a slow ****ing army and 6 blink stalkers and 8 zealots run around killing everything. is BL/corruptor just not viable on tal'darim altar?

and ive started making 5 spines + 2 spores standard on every base on tal'darim altar.... and i still lose my expos to DTs. they make 6-12 at a time. what defense is there to that? im clueless and want to veto the map, but i feel like vetoing tal'darim altar as a zerg is probably pretty dumb. but i guess im so ****ing bad at this game that i have to.

edit lol according to SC2 gears, my winrate on tal'darim altar is 37%... the lowest of any other map... lower than even typhon peaks, abyssal caverns and backwater gulch. guess i should just do myself a favor and veto it.
-Stop making spores and start making overseers at each base. If someone suicides 6-12 dts to kill a 300 mineral hatch, take that trade any day. You should have 10 hatches by this point in the game. So many zergs lose late game when they have 2500 minerals, 75 drones and 5 base.....on Tal you should have 10 base. Right when you are maxed with a good econ, expo to every base on the map.

-Not sure why you have 12 broods, 11 corr, 22 roach and 0 infestors. If you have even 2 infestors you win. Fungal eats up voids and when you mix in corr its not even funny.

-when you're on hive tech and you have your BL/corruptor/INFESTOR maxed army, start pumping drones and making a ****ton of spines. 8 zeals and 8 stalkers dont do **** to 20 spines.....you cant use a BL army on tal without having a ton of spines...ive seen morrow use 40 before, obviously excessive but you get the point make it so you cant lose.

-post replays
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10-13-2011 , 02:30 PM
i changed my sc2 name from rtsraffy to byuntaeyeon orange thought i was a stranger </3
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10-13-2011 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03
-Stop making spores and start making overseers at each base. If someone suicides 6-12 dts to kill a 300 mineral hatch, take that trade any day. You should have 10 hatches by this point in the game. So many zergs lose late game when they have 2500 minerals, 75 drones and 5 base.....on Tal you should have 10 base. Right when you are maxed with a good econ, expo to every base on the map.

-Not sure why you have 12 broods, 11 corr, 22 roach and 0 infestors. If you have even 2 infestors you win. Fungal eats up voids and when you mix in corr its not even funny.

-when you're on hive tech and you have your BL/corruptor/INFESTOR maxed army, start pumping drones and making a ****ton of spines. 8 zeals and 8 stalkers dont do **** to 20 spines.....you cant use a BL army on tal without having a ton of spines...ive seen morrow use 40 before, obviously excessive but you get the point make it so you cant lose.

-post replays
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10-13-2011 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fistdantilus
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10-13-2011 , 07:30 PM
here's my vid. i have no idea why windows movie maker kept letter boxing it, but i suspect it's cause i recorded the vid in a non 720p or 1080p native resolution, which was pretty dumb, but it's still decent looking. just make it full screen.

AND make sure you have sound.

there's 4 games in the vid. games 1 and 4 are by far the best... esp 4. let me know what you think of the rest and plz make sure you watch the very end... it's my favorite part. i shot the entire vid from the camera perspective of the opponents... and the camera work of my last opponent couldn't possibly be better.

also the first game in the vid is against a low masters player lolol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=CzGd6WpHxyY
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10-13-2011 , 08:20 PM
lol that last one is perfect
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10-13-2011 , 08:36 PM
10-13-2011 , 09:28 PM
Why did that first guy stay in the game so long? Who does he think he is, a Terran?
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10-13-2011 , 09:45 PM
What level was that protoss in the second to last game you played? I have no idea wtf he was doing, 4 gate + forge + TC? Did that T ever get siege, lol? What a joker. Very enjoyable, liked the ridin' spinners part.
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10-13-2011 , 09:52 PM
Ok, since you're serious...

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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03
-Not sure why you have 12 broods, 11 corr, 22 roach and 0 infestors. If you have even 2 infestors you win. Fungal eats up voids and when you mix in corr its not even funny.

-when you're on hive tech and you have your BL/corruptor/INFESTOR maxed army, start pumping drones and making a ****ton of spines. 8 zeals and 8 stalkers dont do **** to 20 spines.....you cant use a BL army on tal without having a ton of spines...ive seen morrow use 40 before, obviously excessive but you get the point make it so you cant lose.

-post replays
1. You suggest 2 infestors will make the difference when he posts a screenshot of a ~14K resource army against his opponents' <2K resource army.

2. You say that 20 spines easily takes care of 8 zealots + 8 Stalkers. I'll have to keep in mind that 3K worth of units beats 2K worth of units. Pro tip right there.

Your suggestions to a guy who has a massive advantage is that he still needs more stuff???

Last edited by Fistdantilus; 10-13-2011 at 10:01 PM.
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10-13-2011 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Thamel18
What level was that protoss in the second to last game you played? I have no idea wtf he was doing, 4 gate + forge + TC? Did that T ever get siege, lol? What a joker. Very enjoyable, liked the ridin' spinners part.
he was high d but...

untold story of that game is he fail walled early on in the game and i took out a core and a gateway with lings... then i just left. i didnt kill him... cause i wanted to throw waves of banes!
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10-13-2011 , 10:43 PM
karak,

your problem is that you're not being aggressive enough, especially for taldarim. you really don't want to be playing 30+ minute games because broodlords aren't nearly as effective on huge wide open maps. also with the bases so spread out its hard for either player to secure 5+ bases. thats heavily in protoss's favor. the lower the number of bases, the bigger a 1 base advantage is (ldo). so on a map like taldarim your goal should be to win the game by keeping the protoss on a maximum 3 bases. you absolutely cannot let them have 4 bases since its really hard for you to have 5-6.

just as a comparison, look at shakuras. thats a map with a very narrow middle of the map so broodlords are awesome there. defending your 5th-6th bases also happens to defend your other 4 bases as well.
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10-13-2011 , 11:02 PM


Further proof zerg is bad.
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10-14-2011 , 01:18 AM
20-35 in my last 55

starcraft 2 is fun!

there's so many games that i have completely won and lost. ive lost 3 games today where ive been in villains main, killing all his ****, and i manage to pull out some miraculous loss. i wish i'd just straight up lose rather than basically having the game won and throwing it away every time.
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10-14-2011 , 01:20 AM
Went 4-0. Karak that should make you happy!
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10-14-2011 , 01:23 AM
21-8 on KR so far. Lost two games to random (protoss), six zvz. Mowing through the rest pretty easy. Last string of opponents have been middling diamond players. Haven't played a master yet.
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10-14-2011 , 01:26 AM
you really need to learn ZvZ.
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10-14-2011 , 01:57 AM
yea i do. ive been talking a lot with blade the last few days about zvz. he's given me a lot of helpful hints and pointed me in the direction i should go. he likes to hatch first with a 9 drone scout which i thought was bad on ladder... but he's like high masters korea so i guess it cant be all that bad haha. he's been really helpful i just gotta get some reps for him to look at.

this is a lot like my poker game used to be. when i start to get good or im winning a lot, i get complacent and forget a lot of fundamentals. then ill go on a downswong, tilt and it turns into something bad. just reviewing all my reps of losses vs bad players i wasnt doing anything fundamentally correct. no map vision, sitting on larva, not scouting at ALL, etc. just awful stuff. i gotta go thru my checklist again.

orange, WH, blahblahblah, pwn, etc... all your advice was helpful for this. i rewatched that TDA game last night and if i had creep spread (i didnt lay one creep tumor the entire game) i'd have vision, etc. it was just bad vision and bad play.

another thing is when i get in a funk like this, ill start cheesing or all-inning every game for like 20-25 games... which is something i generally dont do outside zvz so im bad at it. i just had a pep talk with myself about playing macro games and im swinging back. for ex some guy ive lost to a couple times while trying to all-in him just played a macro game against me and got absolutely crushed. i mean just straight roflstomped. made me feel stupid for trying to all in him all the other games.

edit - lol just watched the rep from taht win. im sitting on 75 drones at the 10:05 mark. that's what im good at... not aggro cheese.
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10-14-2011 , 02:50 AM
UPDATE: just won a macro hatch first vs hatch first ZVZ!! omg!! against a masters player too!!!
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10-14-2011 , 03:29 AM
was on a really nice win streak until some guy blind all-in'd me close position with the supply drop marine/scv all-in. that's the only time im ever losing to that. i honestly dont think there's anything i can do to win there even if i scout it, right?. i really think it's entirely impossible, but the fact that he did it ****ing blind just tilts me so bad. i havent lost to that in months. but blind close position herp derp.
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