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05-28-2011 , 02:53 PM
Beat: Yesterday I played a few games, got demoted Plat -> Gold. I lost my first game in gold and got demoted Gold -> Silver.
Brag: I've won 13 of my last 15 games in Silver.
Variance: I lost to a bronze player using proxy 2gate called
Spoiler:
Nigeerslayer

who preemptive-gg'd me and then called me a loser.
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05-28-2011 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc89
I could not disagree more



yup
You might not be GM level, but you're not "bad" at this game. I know you know what I mean and there is absolutely NO way you can disagree with me.

My point is that there are people who play in the lower leagues who struggle and are still trying to get a firm grasp on the game while those diamond level players play, and constantly beat, the players in the lower leagues (during customs and random 2p2 tournaments, whatever). Therefore, you're better at this game than them, which means you're not bad at this game.

That is all. There is no way you can disagree.

I know it's not at that point yet, but if anyone is going to try arguing with me, then don't even reply.
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05-28-2011 , 03:11 PM
If you are defining "good" as "better than 80% of the people playing this game" than you are correct. That's not how I define "good".
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05-28-2011 , 03:21 PM
not bad =/= the greatest on this planet

If you take the stance that bad = not Grandmaster level then pretty much everyone is bad at this game. You can't just compare yourself to the most elite level because then 99% of everyone in this world would never be good at anything.

I mean, you could be "not good" and have a lot of leaks in your game, but that doesn't mean you're bad if you're sitting in Diamond.
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05-28-2011 , 03:33 PM
"bad", "terrible" all depends on frame of reference. bad compared to everyone who ever bought SC2? bad compared to all players that watch tournaments every weekend, work on their game and scour replays?

instead of arguing that your definition of 'bad' is better than everyone else's, just use context to figure out what the other person means and deal with it.
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05-28-2011 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc89
If you are defining "good" as "better than 80% of the people playing this game" than you are correct. That's not how I define "good".
same. i like to think of myself as 'okay' but not really 'good'. when i think of 'good', i think of top masters players +.
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05-28-2011 , 04:01 PM
I think what separates "good" from "bad" differs from activity to activity. For example, you are claiming that being in the top 20% of active players of SC2 means you "aren't bad". Would you say the same thing about poker players? If we ranked poker players, the guys around the 20th percentile would probably still be losing players. Do you think its wrong to say they are bad?

Most people are just bad at video games. When I say that, I don't mean for "bad" to represent some sliding scale of skill that represents some pre-designated portion of the game's players. I mean they make lots of mistakes, they don't know what they are doing a lot of the time, they are slow and imprecise in their mechanics, etc.. In other words, they are bad. The same is true for most people in the diamond league of SC2. Just because there are lots of people who are even more bad than they are doesn't mean they aren't bad.

High diamond/low masters is the cutoff IMO where bad starts to transition into 'not good' and 'meh'. Like Orange, that's how I'd describe myself.

It's kind of like this:

http://www.businessballs.com/conscio...rningmodel.htm

Most people are so bad that they don't even realize how bad they are. They are in square one of the matrix.
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05-28-2011 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LFO
Beat: Yesterday I played a few games, got demoted Plat -> Gold. I lost my first game in gold and got demoted Gold -> Silver.
Brag: I've won 13 of my last 15 games in Silver.
Variance: I lost to a bronze player using proxy 2gate called
Spoiler:
Nigeerslayer

who preemptive-gg'd me and then called me a loser.
Not laughing at your demotion, but I giggled at your post.
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05-28-2011 , 08:06 PM
re-installing to see if that helps with my fps. still kinda mad you have to wait 3 days to make a thread on TL forums after registering. day 3 should be coming up soon
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05-28-2011 , 08:10 PM
anyone know if I will lose all my campaign progress and hard-earned achievements?? also friends list?

Last edited by giarcfrost; 05-28-2011 at 08:14 PM. Reason: didn't notice there was an LC thread
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05-28-2011 , 08:22 PM
i dunno, no and no
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05-28-2011 , 08:28 PM
Like most people have said already, using good/bad/awesome + all those other vague descriptive words depends on how you're using them and who you're referencing. Compared to the entire population of SC2 I would be considered good. Compared to the people that actually care about how good they are/practice to get better etc I am considered quite bad.

I have crappy mechanics, crap game sense, know a few BOs and my multitasking is that of a snail. Compared to most casual people its still considered good, but when compared to people that actually care, I suck.

When you try and imagine the theoretical skill ceiling of SC2 and think about all the things that you can do better etc you will then realize how most people are actually quite bad. Most people are making wrong decisions all the time but can get by with it because the person they are playing against is making the same or worse mistakes.
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05-28-2011 , 08:48 PM
At least you run good when you pick random.
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05-28-2011 , 08:51 PM
decide to have a fresh start today and play well

0-2 through my first two games to a marine scv all in which failed but LOL mules and tanks

and then

cannon rushed on shakuras which i handle easily into 2 base blink stalker quick colossus thru teh back hallway catching my army out of position

good ****
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05-28-2011 , 11:23 PM
Spread your OLs out better?
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05-29-2011 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
not bad =/= the greatest on this planet

If you take the stance that bad = not Grandmaster level then pretty much everyone is bad at this game. You can't just compare yourself to the most elite level because then 99% of everyone in this world would never be good at anything.

I mean, you could be "not good" and have a lot of leaks in your game, but that doesn't mean you're bad if you're sitting in Diamond.
exactly

just want to add that the people who think they're good because they're in the 90th percentile will always be stuck there. the people that populate the 99th percentile are the people who still think they suck.

Last edited by blah-blah-blah; 05-29-2011 at 03:56 AM.
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05-29-2011 , 04:52 AM
deep
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05-29-2011 , 05:07 AM
achievements/friends list are all stored online (on your battle.net account) uninstalling shouldnt be a problem
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05-29-2011 , 05:07 AM
5-0 in ladder today. I also got SC2 gears to work. Good day.
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05-29-2011 , 03:09 PM
vodka and icecream cake does not a party make
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05-29-2011 , 03:30 PM
then you're doing it wrong
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05-29-2011 , 03:32 PM
Happy Birthday Raffy!



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05-29-2011 , 03:36 PM
thanks bb ^^
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05-29-2011 , 03:40 PM
Each candle represents 3 years of life ldo.
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05-29-2011 , 03:40 PM
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i am so old
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