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I've been thinking about it every now and then, but I think depending on your own personal play style, there is probably a certain race that suits you best. Maybe Protoss just isn't what you should be playing? Have you ever considered playing the other races? Do you already?

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05-05-2011 , 06:41 PM

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i agree pvp is lame, but hopefully the next patch fixes it.

pvt i find difficult and such...but whatever. it's my hardest matchup for sure but i'm getting better at it.

the basic mentality that i have is that i'm not good enough to bitch about imba **** in a serious manner. there are so many leaks i have in my own game that i need to correct before bitching about "OH BIO IS TOO TOUGH QQQ". (and i do do that quite a bit in the 2p2 channel alot...mostly out of rage).

i dunno, i guess i don't really get too angry about losing. so w/e.

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05-05-2011 , 06:42 PM

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I hate Terran, and while Zerg could be fun to play I'm terrible with the race's mechanics. I just think the game design is fundamentally bad. The immortal and marauder are terrible for the game, for instance. Sure the game may be "balanced" in that each race wins ~50% of the time, but I just think the tools they gave us to play with suck and make for uninteresting play. The hard counter trumps good unit control. So don't give me **** about not being in a position to talk about balance, because I'm really not.

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05-05-2011 , 07:13 PM

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PvT isnt imbalanced as far as Im concerned (assuming thors get nerfed) its just a lot harder for protoss. Terran is quite an easy race strategically, easy defense, easy unit control not much micro required compared to zerg and toss but it is significantly harder to macro well as terran IMO just the amount of clicks necessary is pretty high. Zergs get punished pretty hard for macro missteps though so maybe not as hard in that sense but meh.

PvP is about to get fun as hell.

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05-05-2011 , 08:15 PM

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Seriously, blink play is straight hard-countered by 3 gate robo? Like I can blink micro perfectly and you still aren't going to lose 15 food of your army? ****ing ******ed

Not at all. Blink is so damn good. It's what you do when you have it that matters. The trick is to expand far away and keep him in his base. You don't engage til you have more units/charge/etc.

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This game isn't even fun. I hate the dynamics of every matchup. PvP is ****ing ******ed, build order loss bull****. PvT is expand and tech to AOE or die, which smart Terrans can exploit by using their more efficient bio force early to secure an economic advantage. ****ing stupid. PvZ - who gives a ****, the other two matchups blow.

Oh and bio is a ****ing joke and Terrans who think that their race's micro is anything resembling difficult are delusional.

PvP should be easy wins with minimal practice. I do the same thing just about every game and I win just over 70% of my PvPs.

T is pretty ******ed though, I always guess wrong about how many units to build. I've been 4 gating with success and also going 1 base colossus with success. I have no idea how to play a defensive game vs T though.

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05-05-2011 , 08:18 PM

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If you're not going DTs in PvT, you're doing something wrong (or proxy SG).

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05-05-2011 , 08:26 PM

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Not at all. Blink is so damn good. It's what you do when you have it that matters. The trick is to expand far away and keep him in his base. You don't engage til you have more units/charge/etc.

PvP should be easy wins with minimal practice. I do the same thing just about every game and I win just over 70% of my PvPs.

T is pretty ******ed though, I always guess wrong about how many units to build. I've been 4 gating with success and also going 1 base colossus with success. I have no idea how to play a defensive game vs T though.

Cool story.

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05-05-2011 , 08:45 PM

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My bad, I forgot this thread is one where you just bitch endlessly without responses.

If you want, I'll be more than happy to show you.

You go 3 gate robo, I'll go blink. We can see who wins

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05-05-2011 , 09:00 PM

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See the thread title? BBV?

Do you go into BBV threads on the poker forums too and berate people "Oh winning with aces is EASY, C'MON!"

You have some modicum of intelligence, right?

If not, please don't bother responding to my posts.

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05-05-2011 , 09:01 PM

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i remember a game where two good players (not elite by any means, or even 'very good', just high diamonds (before there was masters)) did a test like that, 4gate vs. 3 gate robo. the 4gate won obv.

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05-05-2011 , 09:02 PM

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also, AKspartan hate reminds me of my own, DARKNESS

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05-05-2011 , 09:18 PM

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No but if you say something stupid you will get called out for it. This is one of the more forgiving sub forums on 2p2 and it shows.

If someone b/3b with aces on a drawy board, then yea, I'm gonna call them out for posting that in a bbv thread.

If you want to make a rage/QQ thread, by all means, go for it. Cause all you do is bitch and post passive-aggressive responses.

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05-05-2011 , 09:19 PM

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If you post a hand were you got allin with aces and got sucked out on in BBV ppl would say "standard." Also, Gospy is smart and contributes a ton I dont get the hate at all. Also people posting analysis in this thread has been pretty standard for months, for example someone posts a rep and someone comments on mistakes and how they can win the in future its super stanard and not aggressive at all. And "BBV" is not a license to say things that are blatantly untrue.

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05-05-2011 , 09:30 PM

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I make a post venting about how I straight up hate toss's matchups and you respond with a combination strategy advice and saying PvP is easy. Just expect inflammatory comments to follow when you interfere with someone's venting. And yeah yeah I'm a whiny bitch. Thanks. I'm not a big fan of yours either.

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05-05-2011 , 09:37 PM

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lol, I'm not the only one trying to maintain the standards of the SC2 threads.

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05-05-2011 , 09:41 PM

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Maybe I'll just go back to lurking se in solitude. I'm a big fan of some of the posters' work there lol.

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05-05-2011 , 09:47 PM

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I feel so stupid when I read cueball posts I never understand them and everyone else does

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05-05-2011 , 09:51 PM

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Don't let Spartan darken you up Gospy.

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05-05-2011 , 09:54 PM

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My bad, I forgot this thread is one where you just bitch endlessly without responses.

Well, it is the BBV thread.

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But when someone tries to help you, don't get butthurt, especially when that person is better than you.

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I feel so stupid when I read cueball posts I never understand them and everyone else does

You're definitely over thinking them, then.

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05-05-2011 , 10:01 PM

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But when someone tries to help you, don't get butthurt, especially when that person is better than you.

I didn't ask for help. And I'm not mad or anything (I was when I made the ranting posts, obviously), I just get some sick form of enjoyment out of this. I'm probably too nice of a person IRL.

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05-05-2011 , 10:01 PM

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wtf is all this dark talk?

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05-05-2011 , 10:07 PM

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And, AK I'm just trying to help. I know the game is frustrating, but I never mean any ill will or sarcasm or w/e it might come off as.

I'll just put all my serious, streategy, w/e posts in tl/other threads. I mean, no strat in bbv, etc, I know, it's just the way things have always gone.

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