IDK if he ever officially retired, but he hasn't been active for a long time due to health problems.

This was the greatest thing I've ever seen last night.

LotV opening cinematic

rofl

should i buy lotv

feel like i kind of have to

you need to find out how the story ends

In celebration of Legacy of the Void coming out, I propose we all make our picks for
- what is the first unit that will be nerfed in LotV
- beyond that, what nerfs (or buffs) in general are most likely to happen soon after release

There is a chance they nerf or buff multiple units at once.

My picks tho:
Ultralisk for nerf
For a buff I'm not sure, will have to think about it, maybe something like stalker if pros focus too much on pure adept compositions

Ultralisk is good for first nerf. Not having played any of the beta, maybe a nerf for zealots too? Or tanks?

Did zealots get buffed in LotV?

I'm not quite ready to put my money on anything particular yet, but I think some good candidates are
- adepts - they're pretty tanky and absurdly mobile for a unit that can 2 shot workers, I don't think it will take many decimated mineral lines for them to either have HP or damage reduced
- vipers - ultras are a good call in general but both races have decent counters to them (immortals, cyclones) that I think DKim will hold off on nerfing them, instead telling the community that he "thinks we shouldn't overreact too soon and should wait to see if better counter strategies develop" or something like that. Rather, I've thought for awhile that the viper being able to basically hard counter massed air units (other than carriers, lol) will quickly earn them a ton of ire and have people comparing it to BL-infestor within days.

I think they've already nerfed some of the sieged tank drop stupidity a bit so I'm not sure what would be first on the list for Terran.

I believe for anyone who's bought it already, it goes live at ~9pm PT tonight. I'll probably just make Protoss deathballs in the campaign for a bit, I don't know if I'm ready for all the new troll builds on ladder.

woooo legend of the void ray is out tonight

Zealot now does damage on its charge, even if they don't actually swipe their target.

I don't think adept will get nerfed, they already rebalanced it a lot in the last few patches.

You have a case for the viper, the bomb aoe thing is good but not op. In my opinion, it's only op vs muta/phoenix. At diamond level, I find the spell nearly useless versus carriers if they only split a little. Oh well, this happened to me 2 or 3 month ago but since then protosses have learned to split

How does the vipers new spell work exactly?

Campaign hilarity: on Hard difficulty, warp gates are your normal warp gates.

On Normal difficulty, they have, like, three charges each or something, so one warp gate can warp in up to 3 units at once if you leave it alone long enough. Macro? What's that?

Well, there are 2 groups of people who play the game:

1) people who play multiplayer
2) people who don't play multiplayer

Remember the WoL campaign where there was a late upgrade that basically made barracks into warpgates? That's the fun of the campaign IMO.

Right, but that was a fun thing, not a difficulty thing, it wasn't nerfed for higher difficulties. It's interesting to think about the genesis of these changes and how difficult people must have found the warp-in mechanic in testing for them to do this, haha.

It did strike me last night though how much larger the difference is between Normal and Hard - usually I play missions on Hard and then go back to Normal if there were achievements I couldn't get. In WoL and HotS the difference is stuff like maybe a bit fewer enemies with less upgrades, in LotV it goes from, like, super easy cakewalk on Normal to very challenging to get more done than the mission requires on Hard.

In particular, you get dark templars pretty early in the campaign, and the following missions where you use them vary from
- normal: detection is very rare, dark templar roflstomp all your campaign objectives easily
- hard: spores and overseers are everywhere, not really any way around having to make a large army to fight conventionally (and without splash damage, you can't morph archons and no colossi/HT yet)

I played a couple of prologue missions on normal last night and there was no 3-unit warp capability...

of course maybe im just not terrible enough to have found that out

I don't think it was in the prologue because I remember thinking the same thing.

I'm just blasting through on Normal to get the story, but I'll probably go back and play though again on Hard. I kinda wanna try a Casual mission too because I can't imagine how much easier than Normal they could make it. Maybe I just think it's easy because I've played the game for years and I imagine my mechanics are, even now, far above the average player.

SHOTS FIRED

Yeah I don't think it was in the prologue either. It's definitely in the main campaign.

Casual is probably for, like, the 5 people out there for whom the LotV campaign is the first video game they've ever played.

I played this game pretty hardcore for 2 years. However, I never played through a single campaign mission lol. Have no clue what the storyline even is.

Caved in & bought this, in pretty much the same boat as Karak played hardcore from 2011-2012 and haven't played much since, but I logged in a few days ago and beat a diamond leaguer so the goal is to get Masters over the next month, Idk if ill stick with toss.

I think Zerg is supposed to be stronger than in HotS (everyone says Protoss is weakest now, continuing the streak of races blowing in the version that features them) so you might as well enjoy it before the nerfs come in.

I've barely seen any Zergs streaming multiplayer since last night though so I don't have a great grasp on the multiplayer yet.

I've played all the campaign missions and I don't know what the storyline is either.

I'm 99% positive that protoss players would have been nazis during ww2. Seriously, how sadistic can they be? They need to delete the whole race and start again, **** those guys.

The campaigns are fun. Multiplayer is the meat of the game but give the campaigns a shot, they're generally interesting and give you a different side of gameplay than the same 3 matchups online over and over again