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06-01-2012 , 06:53 AM
Finally beat the computer on insane in 1v1. Really shouldn't have taken me that long to find a strategy/map/matchup that worked, although I only get the itch to try and beat them again like once every 20 days. Prolly took me a baker's dozen tries in total.

Greedy AI got a roach warren and a macro hatch and an extractor building all at once. Too bad I got 6 lings and a spine crawler in your base you dumb hunk of metal.
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06-01-2012 , 09:35 AM
Insane AI cheats you know right? they mine 7 minerals per trip or something
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06-01-2012 , 05:08 PM
MsSpyte is a qt314
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06-01-2012 , 09:14 PM
Bink, first victory against a master, dude was mad as ****




- NMHU.
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06-01-2012 , 09:35 PM
Only 23 minutes? Play a real PvZ and get back to me.

j/k j/k, congrats. I remember my first, and the guy did rage at me as well (PvZ)
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06-03-2012 , 05:58 PM
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06-05-2012 , 04:47 AM
Just played my first game ever.

Brag: I won
Beat: I'm confirmed awful at this game
Beat: It took 35 minutes to beat someone that was, somehow, worse than me
Beat: I finished the game with 7,000 minerals and 5,000 gas
Beat: With all my riches I built a total of...1 rax, 1 factory, 3 starports
Beat: He built 228 units to my 119
Beat: He killed 19 of my units
Brag: I killed 168 of his
Variance: BANSHEES ARE MAGIC

Am I doing this thread right?
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06-05-2012 , 05:08 AM


I'm waiting for him to tell me how to get my head around all the **** I have to build
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06-05-2012 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Auts
lol
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06-05-2012 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Just played my first game ever.

Brag: I won
Beat: I'm confirmed awful at this game
Beat: It took 35 minutes to beat someone that was, somehow, worse than me
Beat: I finished the game with 7,000 minerals and 5,000 gas
Beat: With all my riches I built a total of...1 rax, 1 factory, 3 starports
Beat: He built 228 units to my 119
Beat: He killed 19 of my units
Brag: I killed 168 of his
Variance: BANSHEES ARE MAGIC

Am I doing this thread right?
Pretty much. Congratulations!
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06-05-2012 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Just played my first game ever.

Brag: I won
Beat: I'm confirmed awful at this game
Beat: It took 35 minutes to beat someone that was, somehow, worse than me
Beat: I finished the game with 7,000 minerals and 5,000 gas
Beat: With all my riches I built a total of...1 rax, 1 factory, 3 starports
Beat: He built 228 units to my 119
Beat: He killed 19 of my units
Brag: I killed 168 of his
Variance: BANSHEES ARE MAGIC

Am I doing this thread right?
Onward to Masters.
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06-05-2012 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Just played my first game ever.

Brag: I won
Beat: I'm confirmed awful at this game
Beat: It took 35 minutes to beat someone that was, somehow, worse than me
Beat: I finished the game with 7,000 minerals and 5,000 gas
Beat: With all my riches I built a total of...1 rax, 1 factory, 3 starports
Beat: He built 228 units to my 119
Beat: He killed 19 of my units
Brag: I killed 168 of his
Variance: BANSHEES ARE MAGIC

Am I doing this thread right?
Awesome.

I suggest for bronze/silver that you learn one build and practice that build non-stop. Preferably an all-in build until you get the flow of the game. The 3-rax is a solid one to begin with imo. Then after a while CC first in every matchup.
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06-05-2012 , 01:38 PM
needle is an expert on silver level play
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06-05-2012 , 03:36 PM
For my practice league games I think all-in builds might be troublesome. The map was on Novice Kulas Ravine, which is like Kulas Ravine but with rocks blocking the entrance to each base. I imagine that's probably common with novice maps?

But anyway, I built a supply depot and my barracks and was going to pump out marines, but walled into my base I was like...well ****, now what? So I built a reaper to jump off the cliffs past the rocks and go scout; I found his base in the upper right, where he'd already expanded, and his expansion was undefended so I successfully blew some drones away and got out unscathed (successful harassment, whee!).

But yeah, while my plan going into the game was to build a ton of marines as fast as possible, once I discovered how strong the natural defenses of my base were I tossed that plan out and went with...well, nothing in particular. I built some marines and a few siege tanks and parked them behind my wall, and then built a few banshees out of a starport since Day9 did a video about banshee harassment and discovered that HOLY**** BANSHEES ARE AWESOME. So then I built some more starports (and by "some" I mean two) and more banshees. He sent a few attacks at the front of my base w/ zerglings and roaches, and each one was easily turned away by my siege tanks and banshees, and after any of those attacks I probably could have sent my army to his base and done maaaaajor damage (watching the replay it looked like he was pretty all in each time, lol me) but instead I just sent banshees to **** up his expos. In fact, don't think I ever left my base with any ground units besides that initial reaper, lol. He finally got some mutas which took out a couple banshees before I ran away, so I built some vikings in response.

One thing I def need to improve on from watching the replay is detection - what are my options for that, as a Terran? He burrowed his units a lot while attacking (I didn't even notice, I thought I killed them all lol) so once that happened I was SOL. Terran doesn't have anything ez like observers or overlords for that, right?

Also, how do you stay on top of buildings and stuff once you get several different unit producing buildings down? Are you hotkeying all of them and just constantly going 5S 6A 7S 8B or whatever? I hotkeyed my initial command center and was pretty good early on about building a constant stream of workers, but when my expansion went down I didn't hotkey it (had a lot of groups already) and was much slower at building up workers there. I can't imagine how you constantly keep your barracks busy when you have five of them.

The last thing I had trouble with was knowing unit capabilities. Like, my banshees would be heading towards a bunch of units and I didn't know off the top of my head if roaches could attack air units or not, so I'd steer clear (lol me). I guess I'll figure that stuff out as I play more.
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06-05-2012 , 04:24 PM
Massing reapers sounds like an amazing novice map strat. Lol.
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06-05-2012 , 05:22 PM
goofy you can hotkey multiple buildings to the same hotkey and units will be built from all of them if you hit the build hotkey enough times. It's slightly more difficult when you have different add ons, just try to remember to always build the tech lab units first as it will queue up all buildings, not just reactor/plain.

You can even hotkey buildings of different types on the same key and cycle through them with tab (same for casting spells with different unit types in a group).
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06-05-2012 , 05:37 PM
You just blew my mind. ty!
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06-05-2012 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Willd
goofy you can hotkey multiple buildings to the same hotkey and units will be built from all of them if you hit the build hotkey enough times. It's slightly more difficult when you have different add ons, just try to remember to always build the tech lab units first as it will queue up all buildings, not just reactor/plain.

You can even hotkey buildings of different types on the same key and cycle through them with tab (same for casting spells with different unit types in a group).
You can even play protoss and just press w and spam z and s.

Don't have to worry about add-ons or anything!

No but seriously I agree with learning 1 build order per matchup and just practicing it until you're bored and then doing a different one for a while.
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06-05-2012 , 07:24 PM
I would skip the practice games after you play a few. Don't bother with all 50. Reason being the map pool is not conducive to learning at all and the ladder system is such that you will be at a 50% win ratio in short order anyway.

As for detection. Scans are your main detection tool but turrets and ravens can also detect. You know about Orbital commands?
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06-05-2012 , 08:33 PM
Guy from a Customgame asked me for 2on2, he was like Gold, but I was bored and didn`t play 1on1 for a long time so I agreed.

So well because I was sure that I play against total noobs I decided to troll --> Massphoenix.

God I love phoenix, its so fun to lift entire minerallines and make the Opponent ragequit.
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06-05-2012 , 11:59 PM
i would recommend you learning how to hotkey different buildings in different hotkey groups. once you learn a mechanic, it's hard to break that habit. i tried changing my nexus hotkey from '1' to like '5' for a while and i just couldn't do it...so yeah, it might be a bit harder now, but i'd recommend you learn it the better way from the start.
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06-06-2012 , 12:00 AM
also, when you say you were walled into your base, you know that you can lower your supply depots, right?
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06-06-2012 , 01:33 AM
I meant walled in by the rocks, which I was hesitant to destroy since they provided me with some natural defense for free.
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06-06-2012 , 02:12 AM
oh ok lol....confused. goofy, add me on sc2- LANDLORD (character ID - 516)
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06-06-2012 , 07:52 AM
next OSL to be SC2. anyone can play it. GOM soon to be rightfully thrown back to obscurity
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