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12-17-2011 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
Embrace losing right now.

I switched to Zerg for a few days and went 2-24. It tanked my MMR, but once I switched back to Protoss, I realized just how bad those players are in Gold and Silver. You won't realize it now, but someday you will.

I think the real problem is that you're coming in at kind of a funky time, during the ladder lock. People do weird things where they tank their MMR just so they can beat up on the less-skilled players. I've had a few games where people leave right away.

I had a game the other night where 20 seconds into the game the guy said, "Sorry I have to go to a Christmas party" and then left the game. Like..you didn't know before you clicked Find Match that you had to go to a Christmas party in 30 seconds?

My point is (and this is just a theory) that while you did your placement matches, you may have been playing against people who didn't care to win. So you actually won games that you probably wouldn't have won otherwise. This makes the system think you are better than you actually are.

I watched your replays and you're really not that bad. You are probably better at zerg than I am. haha

And to just put it into perspective, as you didn't know how to use hatchery rally points, when I first started playing this game during the beta I didn't know you could use the right-click to move. I kept hitting M-Left Click.

Just continue to learn and use one build order over and over until you get the hang of it. Macro is really the biggest thing in the lower levels. As you play and lose, or even if you win, think about something that you could have done better. For example, in the ZvP on TalDarim you should have sniped his pylon to shut down his 2gates and 1 stargate. That is just something to think about for the next time you see it. And then you learned about rally points. etc. etc.

Heck, I'm in Platinum and I'm still learning new things all the time.
Thanks man. Yeah I remember Pylon sniping from BW but it just left my memory or something, also I wasn't exactly microing my army at all lol. What about getting an overseer vs protoss as soon as Lair is done? Or an overseer at each base? I hate cloaked units they always crush me.
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12-18-2011 , 01:24 AM
i present: my very 2nd game played in sc2 in 6 weeks. literally have done nothing else outside of 3 mins on the multi-tasking trainer and playing gogetit for a game.

maybe i wont get demoted to diamond after all? altho trump told me pregame exactly what build he was doing (at least the 2 base push) and i meta gamed him pretty hard so it was sort of unfair. after that my mechanics just went all AIDS.

but really after not playing for 6 weeks... it feels like im playing for the first time again. all my mechanics aren't just slow... they really don't exist. i dont remember how to do things like hotkey queens and stuff. i forgot a lot of build orders too (i mean not that Z has build orders, but like the general time to make things).

http://drop.sc/75755
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12-18-2011 , 10:02 AM
Im sooo streaky on ladder. Last week I got really hot and was playing mostly mid/high diamond players and even played my first game against a masters player on ladder. But now I am back to losing to terrible plat players.
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12-18-2011 , 02:08 PM
I've been getting some really bad latency at home. Protoss is pretty impossible to play when you can't micro your units properly, especially FFs. I had a couple games where I got matched with masters players and got stomped frankly because the latency made the game nearly unplayable, and then closed off the night with a 5 gate nexus cancel all-in that I managed to make narrowly work.

Unfortunately the last dude I played was plat.
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12-18-2011 , 02:40 PM
Just played my first Laddergame as Zerg and my 3rd Zerg game overall.

It was quite funny how overwhelming everything was, I could not really attack and micro and focus on macroing.

Still I crushed the other guy pretty hard, but well he was bronze or something.
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12-18-2011 , 02:57 PM
Bronze doesn't mean necessarily that bad. I have played bronze leaguers who had hundreds of wins.
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12-18-2011 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Bronze doesn't mean necessarily that bad. I have played bronze leaguers who had hundreds of wins.
Bad players beating bad players.
I'm gold and I suck, somehow I manage to win
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12-18-2011 , 03:10 PM
Yeah but what I meant was, Bronze doesn't mean they aren't way better and experienced than their rank suggests. I have played Bronzers who seemed clearly better than gold leaguers I have played.
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12-18-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Yeah but what I meant was, Bronze doesn't mean they aren't way better and experienced than their rank suggests. I have played Bronzers who seemed clearly better than gold leaguers I have played.
Those are the people who most likely tanked their record/mmr to farm wins for portraits.
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12-18-2011 , 03:24 PM
I see. How lame.
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12-18-2011 , 03:32 PM
I doubt any "real" bronzeplayer can beat me even if I play Zerg. Even totally wastedI should be able to beat them(Really).

Just played three games, got raped in 2 and then played a Silverguy in ZvZ. My macro was on fire(Compared to others on that level^^) and I pretty much raped him.

Its fun playing on a second account with a new race.
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12-18-2011 , 03:43 PM
Just saw this on reddit. Yesterday Dragon was trolling lower level players.

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12-18-2011 , 03:54 PM
I think I saw a game where he just went CC/SCVs and killed his opponent with his max SCV army. Lol
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12-18-2011 , 04:27 PM


<3 NonY
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12-18-2011 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
I think I saw a game where he just went CC/SCVs and killed his opponent with his max SCV army. Lol
awesome lol
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12-18-2011 , 06:13 PM
I saw that game, on tal adrim right?

for some dumb reason the zerg went pure infestor instead of having a chunk of broodlords... and he had 60k saved up then massed starports/battle cruisers, but did suiciced almost all the scvs inot base and did a bunch of damage then the zerg left after the bcs came out...

Against a zerg the strategy actually seems pretty strong but the problem is ridic long games
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12-18-2011 , 06:55 PM
Need an Xmas gift idea for an uncle who works a lot. What you got Fx?
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12-18-2011 , 07:35 PM
Despite playing weekly. My last win vs a human being was 8 weeks ago. Haha...
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12-18-2011 , 07:38 PM
You get your game working Needle?
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12-18-2011 , 07:44 PM
As long as I restart my comp and don't open up anything but chrome and sc2. I seem to be ok. Its once my computer has been going for a while it begins to **** itself.
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12-18-2011 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
I think I saw a game where he just went CC/SCVs and killed his opponent with his max SCV army. Lol
Yeah, it was on Xelnaga. He mass expanded to every location on the map except for the Zerg spawn and their natural. Then he massed up Planetarys and went mass SCV. He was able to hold off a few zergling/roach attacks, but then eventually the guy just ran out of money. His opponent tried to expand to the Gold, but he wasn't able to defend it.

Here is a pic:



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Need an Xmas gift idea for an uncle who works a lot. What you got Fx?
I don't give gifts to my uncles. haha My family has never done anything like that. I don't know anything about your uncle though. Nothing is hitting me for someone "who works a lot."

I'm blank right now. Any information about him?

EDIT: HOLY ****, Kim Jong Il is dead. WTF? Ironic.....
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12-19-2011 , 05:54 AM
So I tried to play 1on1, I had like 5 joinbugs in a Row and now my 1on1 Button is gone. It`s just gone -.-. Never had this and played before that 4 games without a problem

But well I recently moved to another flat and got new internet.
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12-19-2011 , 01:08 PM
I just lost to 2 base carriers for the first time since bronze league.
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12-19-2011 , 04:28 PM
Brag: Beat a Masters Terran
Beat: He instaleft the game tanking rating ahead of reset.
Variance: from 22/27 games being zvz last week, my last 4 games have been vT.
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