Who is this Karak, not making sense one bit? Oh right, the one we know and are forced to love like a crazy uncle. The same one.

if you have a crazy uncle forcing you to "love" him, you may want to contact police.

Well done.

Karak plays SC2. This I did not know.

lol at people bitching about the mule.

Why MC is the true Boss Toss:

http://whitecosmos.tumblr.com/post/1...and-pickpocket

No, I don't really have any proof. It's just a hunch. Do you have any proof that T is so APM un-intensive that we need to completely rework the macro mechanic to make the race significantly harder to play? It seems the burden of proof should be on you guys, IMO.

I don't see why this is lol. Literally every unit of ours that is used in TvP and TvZ has some form of ability that we need to individually cast, or else we will lose the game.

Just think about TvP for a second; We have to stim our bio, drop PDDs, seige/unseige our tanks, EMP, focus fire our vikings on collossus, and on and on and on... What is P doing while I am doing all this? Maybe casting a few forcefields? And now there are protoss players in this thread telling me that my race is too easy and that it needs to be made substantially more difficult me to macro... what a joke

LOL Masters, LOL Zerg:

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I'm silver fwiw.

uh....no one ever EVER gets tanks ghosts and ravens in a TvP. the only time you even see 2 of those 3 in the same game is when terran does a 1-1-1 w/ a raven.

like i can just rattle off a bunch of micro zerg has to do in certain situations and pretend that i have to do them all at once and it'll sound like a lot too.

MC = total baller

Ok fine. Take tanks out of that equation then. And add in stim kiting. The point still stands.

You can't though, that's my point. There aren't really these sorts of micro situations for P and Z that all have to be executed at the same time.

Wow, stim, such a hard ability. "Look, I pressed T, gogogogo click - s - click - s". So ****ing hard. I feel your pain, I really do. Terran isn't the only race that has to manage a battle and macro simultaneously, you know.

lol...i can rattle off plenty of stupid micro things that protoss have to do as well. i don't think that terran or protoss battle micro is really all that different between the two, just different. zerg i think is a bit easier battle micro but obviously much harder macro (IMO).

What?? Sentry needs to use FF and GS(which if you dont do well, you die). HT needs to go to war with ghosts who have longer range etc. You need to move Col so they dont get picked off by vikings or stimmed bio, you need to move fast stalkers behind slow zeals every 5 seconds it seems. In lower unit skirmishes in the early game there is also a ton of focus firing etc...not to mention always needing to focus fire and micro immortals. Blink stalkers as well.

Your assumptions are getting more absurd as this continues. I can't believe this has turned into Terran needs to micro while every other race A-moves. That would be like me saying "derp derp all Terran does is press T and A-move derp"...which is obviously not true and trying to play it off as true is stupid.

i think terran is the hardest race to play a macro game with in sc2 and i dont think it's really that close.

i'll just rattle off a few i guess-

stim your bio = blink your stalkers and or/make sure that your chargelots are in front or else they are useless. micro = even.

drop your pdds= ok i guess we have nothing like this. i guess you can say sentry. either way, forcefields + guardian shield > throwing down one pdd (given you have to FF multiple times all over). micro = protoss harder.

siege/unsiege= making sure our immos actually do something and make sure our colo are spread out. micro = terran harder.

EMP = storm AND (much more difficult = feedback). feedbacks are super hard. given range is better for terran, micro = protoss harder.

focus fire collossi.. protoss units have to focus fire the vikings with stalkers. and it's hard to find a balance since stalkers straight melt vs. marauders. micro = micro even.

i agree with this due to the production. protoss can warp in 20 units at once. zergs can build 1000000 units at once on a billion bases. terrans must build new production facilities with awkward rallies.

i also think that the higher tier protoss/zerg units are better than terrans as well.

i also think a 3/3 200/200 mech/ghost army is the best maxed army in the game too so w/e

Terran can cue units which helps a ton with macro imo. And yes, even Bomber cues units.

your post was the equivalent of me saying:

"omg zerg micro so hard!!! i have to get a surround on the marines, make sure my banelings hit the marines not tanks, focus fire tanks w/ some of my lings and mutas, burrow micro my roaches, drop banelings out of overlords, fungal the marines, infested terran bomb seige tanks, and transfuse my broodlords!"

my point was that you just rattled off every form of micro terran MIGHT have to do in certain matchups in certain points of the game and you're acting like you have to do all of those at once which never happens. i mean when was the last time you saw a ghost and a raven in the same game? i honestly can't remember even a single game where those 2 units were on the field at the same time.

what kind of argument is this? I didn't say stimming is "hard". It's one of many things that we have to do in a battle or else we lose. I guarantee you I've lost dozens of games because I got my stim off a second too late, because I was too busy trying to drop EMPs and PDDs at the same time.



Arranging your army before you a-move into me and roll over my face isn't an example of "micro" that is anywhere near comparable to me having to drop all this **** at the drop of a hat because I just got attacked unexpectedly.


lol @ "cue"

I would trade queuing for the ability to instantly remax in a heartbeat.

Also, please note I am not arguing that the game is broken or Z and P need to be made harder. I am just arguing that T doesn't need to be made more difficult. The people who whine about how "easy" T is have no idea what they are talking about for the most part.

You are just dead wrong. I don't know what else to tell you. I have to do them all simultaneously in every single macro TvP I've ever played.

Ghosts and ravens are in the same game literally all the time. I don't really know what else to say... It's not like I'm constantly pumping out ravens the entire game, and its a huge drain on my gas...

i can!

hahah srsly you gotta love MC