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08-29-2011 , 09:16 PM
ok so, i couldn't find top 44 quickly, just top 32

koreans 6
bomber coca dongraegu nada noblesse trickster

eg 6 all of which are paid, including some big checks to puma/huk/idra
puma huk demuslim machine idra incontrol

liquid 6 again all paid, probably big checks at least to hero/sheth
hero sheth haypro ret tlo tyler

dignitas 3 not as sure, would imagine all these are paid
sjow select naniw

reign 2 - not sure
kiwikaki slush

fnatic 2 - not sure
rain kawaiirice

complexity 2 - not sure, imagine they are
trimaster drewbie

its gosu 2
hwangsin ostojiy

fxo 1 everyone knows fxo is throwing money around
moonan

low land lions 1
orly

vp gamers 1
painuser


so vvv has no players make top 32, 3 make top 44 i'm guessing.
this is bull****. they want to be up there with liquid eg koreans dignitas. wtf. do they support their players anywhere remotely near those teams? hell no.
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08-29-2011 , 09:22 PM
aw man
i sat 5/7 hours of my guest pass out just logged onto battlenet being afk

didn't know that the timer counted down outside the games cause the timer never updated ony my account page
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08-29-2011 , 09:22 PM
Here are the complete MLG 2011 rankings: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft...rcuit/Rankings
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08-29-2011 , 09:30 PM
Can anyone say who wrote that quote that's floating around? If it's SugarBear, that guy can go *****. He came off as the biggest douchebag I've ever seen in the first vVv Academy thread. He was playing in Raleigh, and I was actively rooting for him to lose (and I almost never do that). /rant

I mean, I can kind of understand where they're coming from. Obviously, they want something in return for paying for all their player's travel/lodgings (if they even do, because I heard something to the effect that not even A-teamers get financial support sometimes), but this approach is ridiculous. Are they going to keep doing this until they get a team that fits their strict profile?

I think they'll end up with a full roster again this time (people giving the benefit of the doubt because this came out so horribly), but if they continue with this model, they won't be a team for very much longer. No one is going to want to be a part of a team that operates like they are currently if this kind of cut happens again.
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08-29-2011 , 10:02 PM
Who can join though? There are basically no players who arent sponsored that can get top 44 in an mlg and VVV by all accounts doesn't give very attractive offers. If someone makes a deep run or 2 in mlg they're taking an offer from EG or Complexity, not VVV
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08-29-2011 , 10:09 PM
happy birthday, Mr. Cakery
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08-29-2011 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaDog
happy birthday, Mr. Cakery
+1
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08-29-2011 , 10:33 PM
happy bday pwn
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08-29-2011 , 10:45 PM
Feliz cumpleanos pwn.
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08-29-2011 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by phillydilly
ok so, i couldn't find top 44 quickly, just top 32

koreans 6
bomber coca dongraegu nada noblesse trickster

eg 6 all of which are paid, including some big checks to puma/huk/idra
puma huk demuslim machine idra incontrol

liquid 6 again all paid, probably big checks at least to hero/sheth
hero sheth haypro ret tlo tyler

dignitas 3 not as sure, would imagine all these are paid
sjow select naniw

reign 2 - not sure
kiwikaki slush

fnatic 2 - not sure
rain kawaiirice

complexity 2 - not sure, imagine they are
trimaster drewbie

its gosu 2
hwangsin ostojiy

fxo 1 everyone knows fxo is throwing money around
moonan

low land lions 1
orly

vp gamers 1
painuser


so vvv has no players make top 32, 3 make top 44 i'm guessing.
this is bull****. they want to be up there with liquid eg koreans dignitas. wtf. do they support their players anywhere remotely near those teams? hell no.
There are also some fairly big names that didn't make this top 32 list (CatZ and Spades come to mind), which shows just how much time and effort it takes to be competitive at MLG/SC2.
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08-30-2011 , 02:00 AM
One year closer to death pcake!
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08-30-2011 , 02:18 AM
looooooooool

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As Detrimental said earlier, Time is taking a step back from pursuing pro-gaming in order to better support his family. I have no doubts that he would be a phenomenal player if he was willing to dedicate himself to training, but he has chosen another path. We will continue to have him on the team, and support him in many ways, but we can't sponsor a player who has willingly chosen to spend less time improving. Instead we hope the best for him moving forward with his career outside of gaming.
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08-30-2011 , 02:21 AM
meh.

i can see where the team is coming from i suppose

doubt they'll find anyone better than the Time that wont dedicate himself to SC2 to replace him tho. lol

on a side note: good decision Time
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08-30-2011 , 02:22 AM
im not sure time is aware of the decision himself, yet.
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08-30-2011 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
this definitely just happened in the 2+2 channel... both messages were sent at essentially the exact same time:

(Barrin): yea I do
I have to poop first
You: let me poop first
WOW
that's ****ing creepy
...
LOL is that what happened?!? I didn't even realized you said "let me poop first". I was wondering why you thought I was creepy. I thought maybe you thought I was creepy for telling you I had to go poop haha.

Last edited by Barrin6; 08-30-2011 at 02:50 AM.
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08-30-2011 , 06:03 AM
ZvZ might be my best matchup right now. 1/2 the people just snap quit it lol.
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08-30-2011 , 06:55 AM
syz doing some pretty solid raging at zerg ai, at lings blocking his cows so they didn't break forcefields and everything melted to colossi
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08-30-2011 , 07:30 AM
perhaps vvv needs to better support time.
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08-30-2011 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by blah-blah-blah
ZvZ might be my best matchup right now. 1/2 the people just snap quit it lol.
i think i'm doing best at zvz as well since everybody in diamond is rushing to infestors and getting crushed by my roach timings... or maybe PVP is my best actually

mirror matchups are just easier to understand outside of TVT which is just incomprehensibly difficult
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08-30-2011 , 09:38 AM
watching desrow fail is funny. playing vz on kr on TDA, proceeds to try to do the mc/idra pylon block to the natural against the guy who 15 hatches, somehow doesn't complete a wall. then proceeds to chuck some cannons in the natural as well, and somehow positions them so they don't reach the hatchery
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08-30-2011 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
watching desrow fail is funny. playing vz on kr on TDA, proceeds to try to do the mc/idra pylon block to the natural against the guy who 15 hatches, somehow doesn't complete a wall. then proceeds to chuck some cannons in the natural as well, and somehow positions them so they don't reach the hatchery
LOL wat a massive fail.
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08-30-2011 , 11:36 AM
Having played a bunch of Orianna in lol, I now know what it's like to play terran.
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08-30-2011 , 12:54 PM
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meh.

i can see where the team is coming from i suppose

doubt they'll find anyone better than the Time that wont dedicate himself to SC2 to replace him tho. lol

on a side note: good decision Time
Yeah, I understand Jerry's POV, and he did tell me he was going to cut my sponsorship.

I also didn't bring up any issues with him because it's not worth arguing with someone who won't change their mind. He likens vVv to McDonalds or WalMart... allowing other teams to outspend themselves and bust while he spends as litle as possible. Well, that's great for your company, but as a player it's not really very appealing.

I stuck around as long as I did because as much as Karak thinks it gave me nothing, I probably got more recognition being in clan wars as a vVv member and being on the team than I would have gotten not on a team.

Also, I guess it's more fault for not getting more support. I should probably stick to bull****ting about my actual ambitions and what I'm going to do, drop out of school for a year and say I'm going to play fulltime and then play <50 games avg a week, as some of the more sponsored players on vVv.

Anyway, going to pursue some other stuff in SC2 with karak, pwn and others.
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08-30-2011 , 01:05 PM
gl to you Time
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08-30-2011 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PJA

Anyway, going to pursue some other stuff in SC2 with karak, pwn and others.
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