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07-20-2011 , 11:55 PM
What I love about TvZ is the sorta classic heroism and lore -- the humans trying to fend off infestation from aliens, totally Starship Troopers style. Am I the only one who feels that way? hahah
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07-21-2011 , 12:36 AM
Haha, never seen Starship Troopers but maybe that's why I always root against zerg.
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07-21-2011 , 02:30 AM
lol @ villain going "Why cheese? why do you have to cheese? why?" in ZvZ after I overpooled and he 16 hatch 16 pooled on typhon peaks lol. i mean how do you expect to survive doing that on that map? what do you want me to do, say "oh well he got an econ advantage guess ill just drone and hope to catch up!"
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07-21-2011 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by toss
Stupid by EG and Puma. Koreans are going to be less likely to send their players to foreign tournaments and Puma joins a team with basically no practice partners.
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07-21-2011 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 425kid
Stupid by EG and Puma. Koreans are going to be less likely to send their players to foreign tournaments and Puma joins a team with basically no practice partners.
Puma is most likely going to get paid twice as much with EG than with TSL and will win more money playing in foreign tournaments than he would playing GSL. Not to mention even if for some reason he decides to just stay in Korea and play GSL or if NASL was some foreign tournament fluke, he just won $50k so he has a decent parachute. Seems like a no brainer to me.
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07-21-2011 , 03:47 AM
Not stupid by puma, honestly, salary was probably bad, and they all sleep in bunkbeds or ****ty shared bedrooms, it's just pathetic, i don't blame him.

And tsl coach acting like he couldn't do a counter offer and now goes whining, cheap **** stop letting adults sleep in bunkbeds and they might stay (i dont know for sure how the housing is in tsl, but so far every video i've seen is just horrible housing)
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07-21-2011 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 425kid
Stupid by EG and Puma. Koreans are going to be less likely to send their players to foreign tournaments and Puma joins a team with basically no practice partners.
brilliant by EG and puma. anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand how the real world works. puma didnt even have a contract lol. it's so absurd that anyone can see an angle to be upset about this. this is super standard normal business. just the gamer community is all like 16 and doesn't understand how it works.
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07-21-2011 , 04:00 AM
step 1: scout DT shrine as it's 50 % done
step 2: villain clearly knows you scouted it
step 3: villain is a ****** protoss who only does 1 build every single game
step 4: he doesnt cancel it anyways and instead just makes 3 DTs
step 5: misclick cancel lair (lol of all the times to do that, really?)
step 6: have lair done before dts anyways
step 7: pull drones while making overseer
step 8: have 96 gas. 96. ****ing. gas.
step 9: make 3 spore crawlers anyways and block ramp
step 10: apparently ramp isnt blocked (i'd like to murder whoever told me 1 queen can block a ramp)
step 11: but it's ok cause i have a spore in my main
step 12: protoss just forces down spore in about 0.0005 seconds flat cause invisible units clearly need massive dps too
step 13: lose game

amazing race.
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07-21-2011 , 04:03 AM
Dts going berserker mode on spores is probably the most ******ed thing in the game

Lately i just put an overseer at every base
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07-21-2011 , 04:10 AM
96 gas.
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07-21-2011 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
brilliant by EG and puma. anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand how the real world works. puma didnt even have a contract lol. it's so absurd that anyone can see an angle to be upset about this. this is super standard normal business. just the gamer community is all like 16 and doesn't understand how it works.
do we even know at this stage what puma is doing re: staying in korea/moving to the EG house?
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07-21-2011 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
step 1: scout DT shrine as it's 50 % done
step 2: villain clearly knows you scouted it
step 3: villain is a ****** protoss who only does 1 build every single game
step 4: he doesnt cancel it anyways and instead just makes 3 DTs
step 5: misclick cancel lair (lol of all the times to do that, really?)
step 6: have lair done before dts anyways
step 7: pull drones while making overseer
step 8: have 96 gas. 96. ****ing. gas.
step 9: make 3 spore crawlers anyways and block ramp
step 10: apparently ramp isnt blocked (i'd like to murder whoever told me 1 queen can block a ramp)
step 11: but it's ok cause i have a spore in my main
step 12: protoss just forces down spore in about 0.0005 seconds flat cause invisible units clearly need massive dps too
step 13: lose game

amazing race.
So what you're saying is that 50s wasn't enough time for you to build either a spore and spine at each mineral line or a spore near the entrance to your natural with your army nearby to defend?
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07-21-2011 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
brilliant by EG and puma. anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand how the real world works. puma didnt even have a contract lol. it's so absurd that anyone can see an angle to be upset about this. this is super standard normal business. just the gamer community is all like 16 and doesn't understand how it works.
As a spectator it bothers me if it influences other Korean teams to not allow players to go foreign events. I'm not saying that will happen, but if it's even a possibility I can be upset and be more than justified.

Also cancelling the dark shrine is prob pretty bad.
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07-21-2011 , 05:21 AM
i think its great for the sc2 scene in general. it just forces all the teams to be more competitive and serious regarding salaries/contracts/living conditions/etc.
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07-21-2011 , 05:24 AM
yea obv i lost cause im terrible and have no idea how to block a ramp lol

also im playing pretty consistently masters players now.

since 07/07 i'm 21-14:

ZvP: 6-9
ZvZ: 10-3
ZvT: 5-2

Maps:

Shakuras (as usual): 7-2
Metal: 3-3
Shattered: 3-2
Backwater (lolwat?): 4-0
Tal'Darim: 2-2
Typhon: 1-3
Scrap: 1-2

2 of my 3 ZvZ losses were the 2 times I didn't do Titan's build. The 3rd one was when I just made a small error and got overrun by speedings. W

hen I do the Titan ZvZ build order perfectly according to SC2Gears I am 7-0. lol.
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07-21-2011 , 05:28 AM
ive also realized that when i do the roach attack against some zergs w/o detection they just swarm me in speedlings and dont realize the roaches in red health disappearing arent dying but are burrowing

they insta gg the sec like a dozen roaches they thought were dead pop up, which i find highly amusing.

edit - well actually they dont gg. most people rage first or just quit.
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07-21-2011 , 05:33 AM
k my last spam:

ran into a masters rando player tonight who rolled T and did what i found to be... an interesting build. obviously i played pretty sloppy/bad (was my first 1v1 game in a few days), but i think if he tightened up his BO and hid his tech better, this could be pretty effective as a... different opener. auto-turrets are sick.

(cliffs: raven/banshee//viking/thor into BC)

http://replayfu.com/download/2JqV4k
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07-21-2011 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
yea obv i lost cause im terrible and have no idea how to block a ramp lol
Haha, I thought 1 queen blocked a ramp too fwiw. I am kinda curious to see how you could've fumbled so hard. Why didn't you just use your army to hold position on the ramp? Even if you were pure ling, they might've bought you a little time, especially if your opponent wasn't watching his dts.
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07-21-2011 , 05:45 AM
1 queen does block a ramp as long as you dont breathe through your mouth (which i do)

and i was being greedy cause i thought i could block the ramp and be fine, but once he got by i needed more lings which i had made into drones
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07-21-2011 , 07:18 AM
As of right now, 27 of the top 28 on Korean ladder are Terran.
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07-21-2011 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
brilliant by EG and puma. anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand how the real world works. puma didnt even have a contract lol. it's so absurd that anyone can see an angle to be upset about this. this is super standard normal business. just the gamer community is all like 16 and doesn't understand how it works.
You can't seriously believe a professional team wouldn't contract the players who play for them? Fwiw I think this is a great move by EG, but they should have gone to the manager of TSL first. Now, they just come off as giant douchebags AND have unneeded controversy surrounding the move.
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07-21-2011 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by templar rage
You can't seriously believe a professional team wouldn't contract the players who play for them? Fwiw I think this is a great move by EG, but they should have gone to the manager of TSL first. Now, they just come off as giant douchebags AND have unneeded controversy surrounding the move.
I'm sorry but there's only one person that caused unneeded controversy and that's the manager of TSL.

Yeah real professional for a manager to come out with a statement and go on a tangent on twitter while EG didn't even make an official statement yet. Can't believe why almost no one on TL is hating on this guy, you can see why entire TSL is going to **** when you got a person like that in the lead. (FYI everyone is jumping ship on TSL)

Imagine if EG could have made an official statement and this TSL-manager didn't go on a twitterwar. You know what would've happened? The same way people responded to Rain joining FnaticMSI, the same way people reacted to FXO buying out fOu.

It's all about how you present it, the manager of TSL ruined it for EG, and to me it's hilarious the posters on team liquid can be deluded and pushed to the edge so easily.
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07-21-2011 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
2 of my 3 ZvZ losses were the 2 times I didn't do Titan's build. The 3rd one was when I just made a small error and got overrun by speedings. W

hen I do the Titan ZvZ build order perfectly according to SC2Gears I am 7-0. lol.
Link to Titan ZvZ build?
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07-21-2011 , 11:34 AM
the posters on TL is about the same level as youtube comments tbh, and the moderation is set so insanely strict to counter this in some weird way that all the good content gets filtered out.
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