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06-03-2011 , 05:28 PM
I wanna try making some mead, but honey be exepensiveeee.
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06-03-2011 , 05:29 PM
I do love me some mead...It's a shame I can't homebrew icewine lol.
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06-03-2011 , 05:36 PM
zomg this thread reminded me a have beer too!
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06-03-2011 , 05:59 PM
thanks pwn (:


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so how about that chocolate milk guys.YOOHOO ftw, amirite?
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06-03-2011 , 06:05 PM
Yuck. Nesquick all day.
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06-03-2011 , 06:14 PM
You know, making your own chocolate at home is pretty rewarding :P
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06-03-2011 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by phillydilly
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft...Push_(vs._Zerg)

couple things:
This build isn't difficult to micro, but you have to be microing it, ie siege-unsiege-move, moving marines forward, then back into siege cover. When doing this its really easy to like macro slip. I've lost a lot of games with this because my 3 tank push is super successful, then i look and have like 1k mins. If you feel like you are just running over the Zerg, its very important to drop your command center and more rax. if you are running him over, its probably because he just doesn't quite have mutas out. if you dont have those extra rax down by the time he does, you'll be in trouble.
it can also help to bring 2-3 scvs with push for repair, bunkers, or turrets.
Ah, just what I needed! Thanks!
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06-04-2011 , 01:46 PM
going on a long long trip so won't be playing any sc2 for 2 months. gl to all who are playing in the tourney!
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06-04-2011 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Wraths Unanimous
You know, making your own chocolate at home is pretty rewarding :P
I can't tell if you unintentionally omitted the word "milk" there, so I'm gonna assume you did and say:




A little salty about misspelling Nesquik in my other post, but it's been a while. Hf on you trip orange. ^_^
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06-04-2011 , 03:51 PM
First ladder session in like a week. 1-6, including losing to some ******ed Terran who went 4 fact siege tank off 2 bases and I ragequit because I thought I was behind. Turns out, I would have crushed his face.
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06-04-2011 , 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phillydilly
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft...Push_(vs._Zerg)

couple things:
This build isn't difficult to micro, but you have to be microing it, ie siege-unsiege-move, moving marines forward, then back into siege cover. When doing this its really easy to like macro slip. I've lost a lot of games with this because my 3 tank push is super successful, then i look and have like 1k mins. If you feel like you are just running over the Zerg, its very important to drop your command center and more rax. if you are running him over, its probably because he just doesn't quite have mutas out. if you dont have those extra rax down by the time he does, you'll be in trouble.
it can also help to bring 2-3 scvs with push for repair, bunkers, or turrets.
So I've been trying this build out and I really like it, I do have some questions though:

-Do you really get 2nd gas before second supply depo? I've started getting gas around 18 now because even with zero scouting (4v4's) I am finding myself flat out broke on minerals if I get gas any earlier.
-When do you usually get more barracks and how many do you get?
-What time does your attack come? Just wondering how bad at macroing I am, mine leaves my base at like 8:30ish (4h, 3tanks, rines)
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06-04-2011 , 11:58 PM
1 friend invites me to a party yesterday to play some team games with his other friend. I end up playing a couple games with other friend today.

tell him to wait a min before he starts another game, so he decides that would be a good time to volunteer this info:

xxx: ok
so
my name is chris age 25 male cut christian upbringing broken home 1 younger brother portland oregon usa
visit dad here and there
the cut part
lol
so strange...
to have to mention that they mutilated my !@#$%
p3nis
=(
xxx: after 3 days of age
lol
sick sick !@#$in planet


wtf who just volunteers this info
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06-05-2011 , 12:09 AM
a troll
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06-05-2011 , 02:06 AM
lol it's absolutely unbelievable how bad i got at this game in not playing 7 days.

just lost to a terran when i had 30+ muta and a bunch of l ing/bane cause i was microing my muta and forgot to put my banes on hold position.

1 marine comes up, 2 tank volleys later i have no army.
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06-05-2011 , 06:42 AM
just went upgraded lings + mass infestor vs a terran who took his expo at 12 minutes, lost his entire early rush to me, and made nothing but marines

brag: kept making nothing but marines even after seeing the only units im making were infestors, baneligns and upgraded lings. basically scouted that i had hard countered his comp, but kept making his comp anyways. LOL terrans.

variance: lost his entire army again to a bunch of fungals and lost about 6 dropships for free

and he never took a 3rd? lololol at terrans. all he did was keep mashing a and making marines and d for medivacs. literally made no other units other than scvs and i was making mass infestor/ling/bane and took a 3rd and 4th

Spoiler:
should be fairly obvious to you at this point that he won the game and it wasnt even remotely close
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06-05-2011 , 07:21 AM
Hey everyone! I have been having a ton of trouble in ZvT lately dying to all sorts of stupid stuff, so I came up with a solid, repeatable build I can use on ladder. I wanted to share it with all of you.

I think this also might have really close applications to the way the Protoss race is played, so I'd encourage Toss players to read along too. In fact, I call it the "Play Like a Toss" build.

PLAY LIKE A TOSS BUILD BASICS

The most critical point of the game is the mid-game. As a result of the unit comp we are relying on, your micro in the mid game MUST be rock solid. It is ESSENTIAL you master these concepts. I'm still working on it, but I think I've gotten pretty good and the video linked below contains both an explanation and demonstration of these advanced micro techniques. Perhaps some of the Protoss players can lend advice on how they do it with their army comps in PvZ and the like:

http://www.justin.tv/karakstarcraft/b/287408224

The build order:

Spoiler:
15 gas
14 pool
Ling speed
21 hatch
Baneling nest
Lair
Baneling speed
Banelings
Banelings
Banelings
(ooohhhh)
Banelings
Some ultras
Banelings


Here is a graphic of the optimal end game army with the "Play like a Protoss" Build. YOu'll note I actually CUT drones hard and sacrificed them in order to clear up supply to make as many banelings as possible as safely as possible!

Spoiler:


Here is the end game army in action. The micro is about as difficult as it gets for a Toss player, so you know it's hard. But watch me adeptly do it. Note the skillful way I box the individual units so they all do their best job.

http://www.justin.tv/karakstarcraft/b/287408667

Let me know what you guys think.

EDIT -

Decided to add a 2nd end game video of the PLAY LIKE A TOSS BUILD. In this video, I show you live play + me immediately loading the replay and taking a look. At the end of the replay analysis, I actually attempt to step into the mind of the opponent so we can get an understanding of what it's like to face the PLAY LIKE A TOSS BUILD (that starts at 5:20 or so in the video).

Enjoy:

http://www.justin.tv/karakstarcraft/b/287409837

Last edited by Karak; 06-05-2011 at 07:54 AM.
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06-05-2011 , 08:05 AM
Great counter to the standard 2port-banshee-no-expand build. I'll TvZ you and not do stupid stuff except for that I typically just throw away armies to banelings so that will work in your favor, but my macro is getting better.
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06-05-2011 , 09:34 AM
what is it with ****ing terrans that think it's a good idea to float their cc out of range of my stalkers when i've killed literally everything else, just gg

thinking about it i really should have spelt LOL out with pylons in his main while waiting for a void to pop
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06-06-2011 , 01:52 AM
that post was made for gospy, raffy and stunna so plz read it
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06-06-2011 , 01:55 AM
where is the F button?!
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06-06-2011 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
that post was made for gospy, raffy and stunna so plz read it
I don't get it.
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06-06-2011 , 10:38 AM
what the hell, i just played a pvp on metal, cross positions and i 4 gate him, i hide my proxy pylon in the corner of the gold nearest his base, and in a moment of collective ******edness, he takes that base and neither of us notice each other until i stick a second pylon there as well
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06-06-2011 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by imolin
You know SC2 is getting big when...
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06-06-2011 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by imolin
explains the decrease in idra rage and increas in idra don't give a ****
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