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11-21-2010 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by EADGBE
i just lost to all out 6 pool on sands

6+2 lings and 5 drones in my base when my first zealot was 1/4th done
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Originally Posted by dmk
because terrans already down-voted blistering sands since release
This is funny, I play zerg and don't have blistering sands downvoted, but I havn't played _anyone_ on it in my last 80-90 games. ( not joking, I archive my ladder replays and used sc2 gears to check ).
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11-21-2010 , 11:33 AM
Lots of ZvZ happens on blistering sands. =)

Terran is just screwed on that map, and every P I play there does a 4 gate. I can't even remember the last time a T/P even got a 3rd up against me.
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11-21-2010 , 06:50 PM
Blistering Sands is definitely the worst map for Terran in the pool.
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11-21-2010 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aK13
Blistering Sands is definitely the worst map for Terran in the pool.
i keep it unchecked even though im terran.

i generally 1/1/1 always or 2raxFE or something, but on blistering sands i do the good old 3rax, cause most ladder guys just do their usual protoss FE builds (bad bad bad on blistering sands cause I get all out in the open once i bust through the rocks) or 15 hatch and dont make enough lings

**** sometimes i dont even wall off i just place a couple bunkers, make a real tight base, then pozz
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11-21-2010 , 10:07 PM
Damn its hard to switch to a new race. I have to relearn all the hotkeys and have no build orders memorized so I have to constantly be checking a piece of paper with BO's written on for the first 6-7 minutes of each game.

Switching races has helped me learn a new system for hotkeying buildings. Now I hotkey buildings 4+ and have units 1-3 which should help with micro'ing units and keeping macro up to par during firefights.

I think I'll try to stick it out for at least another few days and if I'm still not liking it I'll go back to terran. At the very least I'll have come out of it with a new hotkey system and a better understanding of protoss mechanics.

I've also unchecked all maps except for Blistering Sands. Scrap station is actually a pretty fun map and I kind of want to go back and try playing this map as terran. I had originally vetoed it back when I first got the game because I sucked and had a hard time stopping 6 pools on the map.
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11-21-2010 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by scar
Damn its hard to switch to a new race. I have to relearn all the hotkeys...
I play random, and I recommend a system which is the same or similar across all races.

1: Primary army.
2: Primary air force.
3: Secondary military/special forces (Blink Stalkers, Banshees, Ghosts, Roaches).
4: Tertiary production facilities (Factory if my secondary is Air, vice versa), or misc support (medivacs, observers)
5: Secondary production (starport, robo).
6: Primary Production (Barracks, gateways, hatcheries)
7: Econ boosts (Nexus, Orbital Command, Queen)
8: Front door supply centers (Extremely convenient for teamplay so you can quickly let the ally out while you're doing your own thing.)

Once you learn production hotkeys, you can have perfect control once they're in play.
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11-21-2010 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeldark
I play random, and I recommend a system which is the same or similar across all races.

1: Primary army.
2: Primary air force.
3: Secondary military/special forces (Blink Stalkers, Banshees, Ghosts, Roaches).
4: Tertiary production facilities (Factory if my secondary is Air, vice versa), or misc support (medivacs, observers)
5: Secondary production (starport, robo).
6: Primary Production (Barracks, gateways, hatcheries)
7: Econ boosts (Nexus, Orbital Command, Queen)
8: Front door supply centers (Extremely convenient for teamplay so you can quickly let the ally out while you're doing your own thing.)

Once you learn production hotkeys, you can have perfect control once they're in play.
I also play random, and I much prefer:
1: Nexus/CC
2: Primary Army
3: Secondary Army
4: Tertiary Army/Air force
5: Primary Production (hatcheries, barracks, gateways)
6: Secondary Production (factories, robotics)
7: Air production (starport/stargate)
8: generally unused (hard for me to hit accurately)
9: observer/overseer
0: (when I remember this one, which I'm really bad at doing) forward pylon where I want to warp units to.

I prefer using 2,3,4 for units, because 1 uses the same finger that A does, which can be a little awkward for attacking.

Also, I'm hoping and praying that when they patch customizable hotkeys, they'll also allow you to rearrange the grid. I really want to use grid keys, but simply cannot adjust to Attack being "T". Too many years of RTS experience where A was attack in every single one of them.

I've been working on a grid layout that moves things around in ways that move a lot of the commonly used keys that are awkward to hit, as well as making things as consistent as possible for the 3 races, but it won't work unless you can move icons around on the grid layout as well as reassign the key.

Every single blizzard game that has ever come out has made me wonder if they actually just pick hotkey layouts at random, or let a roomful of monkeys bang them out, because their default hotkeys have always sucked major ass, and their UIs in general have left much to be desired.
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11-21-2010 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TNixon
0: (when I remember this one, which I'm really bad at doing) forward pylon where I want to warp units to.
Ooo this is a good idea. I'm going to throw combat pylon into 8, thanks. And maybe creep tumors on 8 or 4.

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Every single blizzard game that has ever come out has made me wonder if they actually just pick hotkey layouts at random, or let a roomful of monkeys bang them out, because their default hotkeys have always sucked major ass, and their UIs in general have left much to be desired.
Blasphemy. However, it was nice to reconfigure D2 Function keys to S, D, F, G, H, X, C, V, E, instead.
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11-21-2010 , 11:45 PM
I always bring a probe with me and build pylons as I go. If I'm winning, there will be 2-3 in their base.
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11-21-2010 , 11:52 PM
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11-21-2010 , 11:53 PM
lol
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11-21-2010 , 11:54 PM
But... but... he stole my drinky! WAAAAAAAAAA!
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11-22-2010 , 01:10 AM
looks like someone got proxy robo'd
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11-22-2010 , 03:48 AM
Got my diamond in 4s now... 4 shiny blue gems in my profile yay!
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11-22-2010 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeldark
Ooo this is a good idea. I'm going to throw combat pylon into 8, thanks. And maybe creep tumors on 8 or 4.


Blasphemy. However, it was nice to reconfigure D2 Function keys to S, D, F, G, H, X, C, V, E, instead.
Is it still blasphemy if I say blizzard makes REALLY REALLY GOOD GAMES but that their interface designers suck ass?

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11-22-2010 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by scar
I wish grey was still around so we could contain mburke and grey to one thread and have them troll each other and save the rest of this board from trash posts.

Countdown to mburke losing a grudgematch, not paying, and getting banned?
escrow lol
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11-22-2010 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TNixon
Is it still blasphemy if I say blizzard makes REALLY REALLY GOOD GAMES but that their interface designers suck ass?

If the only PC games I could ever play again were made by Blizzard or Valve, I think I'd be ok.
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11-22-2010 , 01:37 PM
I looked into getting a few hrs of coaching from gosucoaching and Machine charges 50/hr for it.. kinda ridiculous imo. Not gonna happen :P
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11-22-2010 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stake Monster
I looked into getting a few hrs of coaching from gosucoaching and Machine charges 50/hr for it.. kinda ridiculous imo. Not gonna happen :P
Just buy a GSL season pass and watch those games and/or Day9 dailys. Your overall decision making and map awareness will improve drastically.
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11-22-2010 , 02:09 PM
LoL watched the replay of my last game and my opponent gged even though he was winning LOL
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11-22-2010 , 03:26 PM
Brag: hallucinated 20 colossi in a 4v4 and opponents snap quit after going in to the first base with them

Beat: still in platinum
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11-22-2010 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMemoria
Just buy a GSL season pass and watch those games and/or Day9 dailys. Your overall decision making and map awareness will improve drastically.
ya probably better options. I figured spending 20/hr on a hobby isn't so bad if it makes me enjoy it more, but since I make 0/hr playing it, 50 seems like totally stoopid.
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11-22-2010 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Stake Monster
I looked into getting a few hrs of coaching from gosucoaching and Machine charges 50/hr for it.. kinda ridiculous imo. Not gonna happen :P
Heres a machine session on ZvZ for free! Epicly good analysis IMO.
http://www.livestream.com/mrbitter/v...ui-thumb<br />
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11-22-2010 , 06:15 PM
Does anyone have a hard time putting in games of 1v1. I only played two today. Each time I win, I spend alot of time rewatching the replay just so I can feel good inside. After that I don't want to play for the rest of the day since I don't want to lose. It's kind of equivalent in poker imo, play 200 hands, make a profit, don't want to play anymore so you don't end up stuck.
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11-22-2010 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
Does anyone have a hard time putting in games of 1v1. I only played two today. Each time I win, I spend alot of time rewatching the replay just so I can feel good inside. After that I don't want to play for the rest of the day since I don't want to lose. It's kind of equivalent in poker imo, play 200 hands, make a profit, don't want to play anymore so you don't end up stuck.
I would agree with you, but atm, I've been on 1.4k gold for so long now that I'm feeling really comfortable putting games in (about 400 played total now) but yeah once I get promoted its gonna be like that
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