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09-09-2017 , 01:26 AM
G3 of the Innovation-Dark semis just now is one of the best SC2 games I've ever seen
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09-09-2017 , 02:33 AM
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INNOVATION IS SUCH A CHEESY ****

Terrans endlessly crying "Mech not good enuf plz buff" and he wins 3 games against the best Zerg in the world with it

This 2port banshee opening is weird but it kinda feels like Terran figuring out how Protoss utilizes Stargate openers to take total map control - Zerg is so hamstrung by having 0 offensive units that shoot air until lair tech that making a few speed banshees means they're trapped in their base while you take a free third and build up to the mech army you need to have no problem holding it. Mech is dumb, Terran is dumb, Dark is a ****ing beast for even making it to game 7 through multiple filthy cheeses with GOAT level holds but ultimately David Kimba wins as always and denies us the final we deserved
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09-09-2017 , 10:20 AM
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That series was pretty fun. Innovation had an edge in the longer games, so it was nice of him to make the series interesting by cheesing so much.
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09-09-2017 , 01:38 PM
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He may not have been very confident in his strategy yet - I looked up his last TvZ in SSL against Solar from ~2.5 weeks ago, he played bio in all 3 games in a 2-1 win. It's possible he looked at Dark absolutely crushing TY's bio play in the ro8 and was like "uhhhh I need something new here", but DAVID KIM is so generous to Terrans that he already had it

Within a month every Korean Terran is going to be opening with this
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09-09-2017 , 02:14 PM
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Within a month every Korean Terran is going to be opening with this
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I just turned on WCS Montreal and Masa is opening 2port speed banshee against Elazer so I may have been too conservative, lol

edit: it's kinda hilarious to watch these foreigner clowns try to emulate Koreans - Elazer ended the game with a 10:00-ish ling-hydra attack when Masa had, like, hellions and like two tanks (with a few more just popping a bit too late to defend the third) on 150 supply; in game 1 of GSL last night, Dark ended the game with a 10:00-ish push, 195 supply vs 185, with roach-hydra-viper (hive tech!!) against like 8 tanks and a few (but not enough) vikings

Last edited by goofyballer; 09-09-2017 at 02:27 PM.
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09-09-2017 , 03:41 PM
It's funny to watch Has play; he successfully cannon rushes Snute, then goes into mass oracle while taking lots of bases and transitions into mass carrier/void ray. But then, he maxes out while Snute is still on, like, hydras and a few corruptors (and he's also maxed, but you don't want mass hydra vs carrier)...and in his moment to move across the map and win, he doesn't, he sits back and lets Snute build a billion spores and split the map.

He still wins off the superior economy he secured himself early while Snute spent the entire rest of the game trying to hold his fringe bases, but like, he never builds a robo (so with no observers, his ability to fight back creep is super limited, he's using oracle revelations to do it and only sporadically); he never builds a mothership (he has a core and loses it and forgets/doesn't care to replace it); he never builds a templar archive for storm.


Dude is always fun to watch, though. Game 4? 3 quick bases, then a hidden 4th in the unused third starting location on Catallena with two more stargates (on top of the one in his main) to wall it off. LOL
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09-10-2017 , 08:06 AM
Afreeca ASL stream was OK for the first couple of games but then lagged like crazy, really need to switch to high quality as opposed to source but it's makes the thing look like crap

Group A results:

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Killer > Sky, don't know what was going on with Sky's build, he simply lacked economy and units and lost to a hydra bust
Light > Larva, Light tries to abuse the map and goes proxy rax in Larva's base, it's scouted and effectively ends the game
Killer > Larva, dull ZvZ, Killer has a bit of a build order advantage and is able to get more mutas and take it down
Light > Sky, Sky's build looked off again, it's a bit of a longer game where he rushes to arbs but can't co-ordinate his attacks and is well behind on econ and upgrades, Light just holds everything until one big push where he breaks his economy
Larva > Light, probably the only watchable game of the night, fairly standard bio vs muta early, Larva's able to get some map control, helped by Light inexplicably attacking the main rather than the third, which allows Larva to clean up, lurker contain and then rush to hive, some nice stop lurker action and sick plagues allows him to build his advantage and advance
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09-10-2017 , 03:50 PM
How to make $25k in a weekend, by Neeb:

2-1 Semper
2-0 Mana
<sleep>
3-0 some Polish Terran scrub named Soul
3-1 Scarlett
<sleep>
3-0 True
4-0 Snute
rub titties
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09-11-2017 , 03:38 PM
They're actually uploading the English stream to Youtube, which is one thing I guess, just watched group B, watch the final match if you watch anything, it's an excellent game:

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Last > Where, completely one sided TvZ, Last is annoying enough with a bunker early that it completely throws Where off, he's barely mining and just keeps making lings which do nothing

sSak > Stork, Stork proxies some gates which get spotted fairly quickly, he can't do any real damage, is behind and just falls to a death push

sSak > Last, somewhat attritional mirror featuring air, Last donks away a bunch of vultures for nothing and sSak's eventually able to get a solid position and a doom drop finishes it

Stork > Where, Stork proxies gates again and while it's scouted he's able to deny the front expo and park on the ramp, Where's cute and tries a proxy hatch in Stork's base which doesn't work

Stork > Last, watch this game, it's pretty standard, Stork goes midgame reaver which does zero damage, Last's able to counter push and kill a couple of bases and should have a winning position, but Stork is able to grind back, macro like a boss and have some great templar/arb micro to win a bunch of fights. Also featuring an arbiter killing a science vessel
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09-11-2017 , 04:18 PM
I'm going through the single player campaign and it's actually great. Is the SC2 one as good?
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09-13-2017 , 03:02 PM
ASL group C wasn't terrible but didn't have anything really worth watching apart from the final match, and even then 40 minute TvT isn't to everyone's tastes. There are cattlebruisers though
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09-14-2017 , 11:22 AM
is this where ppl watch brood war :O

Final games of ASL day 2 and 3 were sick, Jaedong playing this weekend :OOO
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09-14-2017 , 05:00 PM
Like that new goldrush map. Watched a replay of Bisu vs Effort with sair/reaver in to carriers.

Seeing carriers and devourers in a ZvP is so refreshing.
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09-15-2017 , 03:23 AM
link?

Also Sunday's ASL group is pushed back to Wednesday because of issues with the studio apparently, I now can't watch any of it live this week
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09-16-2017 , 03:37 PM
Bogus wins GSL, nobody cares
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09-16-2017 , 07:07 PM
anyone interested in some 2v2s? i normally play 1v1 but wanting to try something different lately.. im decent and am in diamond league if it matters. msg me if interested
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09-18-2017 , 08:50 AM
Have seen today's losers game in ASL described as the weirdest game since Free v Hiya. Reading through the live report I can see why, both players using units that are basically never used in their match ups
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09-18-2017 , 01:39 PM
Just watched it, that was an amazing game

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So you're making ghosts, eh? Sair/goon!
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09-18-2017 , 01:46 PM
yeah, that game was great
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09-19-2017 , 07:34 AM
"I don't want you to have this reaver!!!"
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09-19-2017 , 11:40 PM
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link?
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09-20-2017 , 05:15 AM
I came when JD's mutas killed all those plagued vessels
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09-20-2017 , 09:37 PM
I am loving playing through the SC1 storyline again. I just started the Zerg missions in Brood War.

I don't think the Wings of Liberty campaign was all that interesting but once I got in to Heart of the Swarm I was hooked. Legacy of the Void also amazing.
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09-20-2017 , 11:34 PM
Just finished the ASL vods , hiya's games were the highlight of the day for me. Cool tricks!
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09-21-2017 , 12:45 PM
lol I forgot hiya is the guy that looks like magicarp and mixed him up with sharp
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