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01-14-2012 , 04:51 PM

#2276

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

mt. fishnoob vs dominate

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01-14-2012 , 05:00 PM

#2277

NiSash1337

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lol

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01-14-2012 , 05:03 PM

#2278

loK2thabrain

Tiger > Jack

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 23,203

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Originally Posted by sixfour

quick question to the general public - what's your favourite matchup TO WATCH? i plan on organising a couple of showmatches so some sort of idea as to where to start would be cool

In no particular order, I like TvZ, TvP, ZvP, and TvT.

ZvZ and PvP suck, imo.

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01-14-2012 , 05:15 PM

#2279

SaulPaul

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 510

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Originally Posted by sixfour

quick question to the general public - what's your favourite matchup TO WATCH? i plan on organising a couple of showmatches so some sort of idea as to where to start would be cool

atm tvt>pvt=pvz>pvp=pvp>>>>>>>>>>zvz

the first four are interchangable

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01-14-2012 , 05:17 PM

#2280

costanza_g

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ZvT is the best sc2 matchup imo.

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01-14-2012 , 05:22 PM

#2281

templar rage

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,749

ZvT is my favorite, TvP is my least favorite, and the rest are fairly interchangeable.

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01-14-2012 , 05:23 PM

#2282

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

match-ups in order (as a spectator)

ZvT - GOAT
TvP - GREAT
TvT - ALWAYS EPIC TO WATCH, SUICIDAL TO PLAY
ZvP - DECENT
ZvZ - TOLERABLE
HEAD LICE - REALLY UNDESIRABLE
READING MT. FISH NOOB POSTS - PAINFUL
PvP - LOL

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01-14-2012 , 05:34 PM

#2283

aK13

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Fish noob what is your definition of cheese?

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01-14-2012 , 05:36 PM

#2284

Jackitos

srs biz

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,561

Not sure why I even try to read terran thread. Fishnoob is terrible.

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01-14-2012 , 05:37 PM

#2285

stabn

Usurper

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 21,579

i think that is pretty unfair to pvp.

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01-14-2012 , 05:37 PM

#2286

stabn

Usurper

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i mean i saw a good PvP once...

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01-14-2012 , 06:13 PM

#2287

Mt.FishNoob

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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03

You can still micro at the start and play a macro game as well. When I open 1 gate expo vs Terran I am constantly harassing the bunker at their natural trying to pick off scvs etc. If they didnt 1 rax expo themselves then they are doing some sort of aggressive build which ill need to defend.

If you can't beat toss and zerg late game then you need to get to more late game situations so you can improve and be able to win. Avoiding the situation all together allows for no improvement and you are missing out on a significant part of the game. Stupid poker analogy but it applies....if you cant play AA post flop, pushing PF every time you get it might show a bit of profit, but you never actually learn how to play it post flop.

it is rare though to be so even matched or for the game to go so drawish that the late game even occurs and I don't want to purposefully play a long game by defending and macroing or by 1 rax expanding,,,, I think at high levels when both sides are striving to play optimally then there is much more chance of there being long games. I know my problem in long games vs toss, I don't get the 3rd fast enough, I don't utilise ghosts, and I don't have vikings ready to fight collusus... against zerg I don't really have problems and the game rarely goes past me needing more than two base,

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Originally Posted by templar rage

This is completely wrong. If it doesn't work at the highest levels, it's not a good opening. Why would you use an opening that works at your level, but not higher? There are a myriad of other openings that work just as well at your level, while also working at the highest levels. It makes no sense at all to work so hard on an opening that you're going to have to ditch soon because it will just stop working.

This is completely wrong. If it doesn't work at the highest levels, it's not a good opening. Why would you use an opening that works at your level, but not higher?

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Originally Posted by templar rage

This is completely wrong. If it doesn't work at the highest levels, it's not a good opening. Why would you use an opening that works at your level, but not higher? There are a myriad of other openings that work just as well at your level, while also working at the highest levels. It makes no sense at all to work so hard on an opening that you're going to have to ditch soon because it will just stop working.

Edit: Fishnoob, PM me. I'll lend you my smurf sometime so you can play on NA. Earliest I can play is probably 7pm EST tomorrow night though.

I learned this build from watching high level players.... and by succsess I mean it is winning almost every game, the build alone would not win at high levels because E4E5 ect...

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There are a myriad of other openings that work just as well at your level, while also working at the highest levels. It makes no sense at all to work so hard on an opening that you're going to have to ditch soon because it will just stop working.

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Edit: Fishnoob, PM me. I'll lend you my smurf sometime so you can play on NA. Earliest I can play is probably 7pm EST tomorrow night though.

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Originally Posted by NiSash1337

Lets play a game fishnoob, you might even win because I suck today.

if you have skype send me your skype

yeah that post turned out fookin terrible

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01-14-2012 , 06:17 PM

#2288

Mt.FishNoob

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Originally Posted by aK13

Fish noob what is your definition of cheese?

well there is quite a disparity between a pf rush, a 6 pool, a cannon rush, a 5 rax scv pull, a drone + ling all in,,,, and I think that 11 11 rax is pretty far away from these,,, so maybe there is stilton cheese and just regular cheddar

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01-14-2012 , 06:24 PM

#2289

templar rage

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,749

Still waiting on that PM. . . Hopefully others are on tomorrow night.

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01-14-2012 , 06:28 PM

#2290

Mt.FishNoob

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send me skype details, I was meant to quote both game invitations... I cannot know in advance when I'll be playing, I will probably have the gf round tomoro night at that time... play now?

Also I hope this isn't just to show me up by kicking my ass. Would be doing it more for the practice.

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01-14-2012 , 06:50 PM

#2291

templar rage

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,749

It's absolutely to show you up, are you kidding? You can look at it as practice, if it makes you feel better.

And I don't have Skype. I also can't play right this moment because I'm about to go out. I can be around pretty much any night at or after 7PM EST (except Mondays), so PM me if you think you'll be around.

And fwiw, 11/11 is a TvZ build, not a TvP build. I have never seen a pro go 11/11 in a TvP.

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01-15-2012 , 01:00 AM

#2292

dhcg86

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,410

fishnoob, I remember you saying u have no money online...lets do this.

We play for 1:2 odds. if that means what I think it does, then I put up 5 bucks to your 10 bucks per game, minimum 10 games.

Ill even buy a copy of SC2 on whatever server you play on.

game?

and dont ignore me like you did last time; I do anything but troll on 2p2

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Originally Posted by templar rage

It's absolutely to show you up, are you kidding? You can look at it as practice, if it makes you feel better.

And I don't have Skype. I also can't play right this moment because I'm about to go out. I can be around pretty much any night at or after 7PM EST (except Mondays), so PM me if you think you'll be around.

And fwiw, 11/11 is a TvZ build, not a TvP build. I have never seen a pro go 11/11 in a TvP.

you do realize skype is free right

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01-15-2012 , 02:49 PM

#2293

imolin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,191

new video!

DAT ASS DAT ASS DAT ASS

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01-15-2012 , 02:51 PM

#2294

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

kpop is the mt.fishnoob of music

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01-15-2012 , 03:04 PM

#2295

imolin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,191

no kpop knows its just pop music it doesnt pretend to be Beethoven's ninth

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01-15-2012 , 03:11 PM

#2296

Karak

ELIte

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01-15-2012 , 03:14 PM

#2297

costanza_g

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ma boy was better

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01-15-2012 , 03:20 PM

#2298

imolin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,191

ARIAN NATION

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01-15-2012 , 04:00 PM

#2299

Jackitos

srs biz

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,561

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Originally Posted by imolin

new video!

DAT ASS DAT ASS DAT ASS

you cutie

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01-15-2012 , 04:02 PM

#2300

NiSash1337

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Guys if I tell you that I lost a game to MT.Fishnoob what would you do?

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