I'm really looking forward to the Star Wars MMO whenever that comes out.

Oh yeah, I heard you got your Leia costume.

when i was in high school i used to make like 10 bucks an hour doing mephisto runs with my MF sorc and selling the items on ebay. i had mephisto down to a science and could pretty much instantly kill him with a character maxed out on MF% and firewall DPS

how much you think we will make doing this on d3?

How the f do you run hell mephisto with a firewall sorc? (Unless it was pre everything having immunities)

And bs to $10/hr. With devalued items, realm downs to constant game making, etc, I don't know if I can buy that. I would run for hours at a time and often find nothing of value.

Agree. I had a mephisto bot and it was hardly worth my time of setting it up. I found sitting in the trade rooms all day long and slowly ripping off little kids to be more effective at getting good **** for your guys.

You can't even find the elite elite stuff in hell Mephisto. You have to go to The Pit or that place with Pindleskin or the Crystalline Passage to find the highest ilvl stuff. I remember once I found a Windforce back when it was the rarest item, it felt like winning the lottery. In the like 10 years I played I never found anything even remotely close to that other than the one time.

And you have to have some cold skill to do hell mephisto. There are lightning and fire immunes everywhere.

And yea, def agree with wh. There was a ton of profit to be made just by trading up and taking advantage of people who were too stupid to know how to trade.

Not to mention if you had maxed out mf% you wouldn't get the best drops from mephisto and instead you would get **** rares.

you guys obv did it wrong, and im also older than most of you so HS for you was later in the game than HS for me.

and a firewall sorc was the best way to do it. i could do the runs in i think 2.5 minutes each (and i didnt use a maphack, but there was a trick to "guess" the door locations in all of the levels of that map). you'd get **** drops a lot, but uid items sold for tonsss. i remember selling a uid windforce and some other **** for huge $$. was always important that the stuff be uid.

I started playing D2 like 2002/03 ish I think.

To the best of my knowledge, Mephisto can't even drop a windforce. Isn't the ilvl too high?

I still can't remember if there was a time when there weren't immune monsters, but now you absolutely can't run meph with a firewall sorc unless you also have frozen orb.

I just used a FO sorc to equip the rest of my characters. The (I think) blood lords were a royal PITA and sometimes the council members spawned with ridiculous combo (FE/LE anyone?) so half the time I'd just telel right to meph. The trick Karak's talking about is the fact that the stairs to the third level were always closer going clockwise, but I think that was patched out.

I will happily waste hours of my life with you Gospy

I never used mh either, and I played hardcore, so it was a bit tougher to run meph for me. Maybe I'm just overstating because I always killed the three council members just to be clear.

And when you teleport if you can't kill the bone fetishes or gloam like guys you die. Plain and simple.





I would seriously leave baal games in which there were too many gloams. My decked out cold sorc with a full inventory of cold skill gcs, near perfect torch, anni, cta, etc still almost died way too many times.

i never killed the council members. honestly i wouldnt kill any other mobs other than mephisto. teleport, teleport, teleport, draw mephisto, teleport in the exact right sequence to trick the AI and get him stuck on the edge of the ramp where he couldnt hit you. you sat on the opposite ramp on the other side. drop firewalls which i believe had the highest DPS of any spell in the game spec'd correctly. he'd walk back and forth in the firewalls with the AI bugging out like crazy trying to get to you. teleport back if you ****ed up. if you drew the council members the run was over because you made a mistake and you quit and restarted. ez game.

it wasnt illegal or an exploit. it was just their own dumb ai. w/e.

I honestly don't know how well that would work given the new patches. It's a completely different way harder game.

Wearing mf gear when trying to kill hell meph is a gamble.

Unless you're playing sc like a pussy.

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This is making me want to play. I just remembered I had an ice blast ormus' robes, deaths fathom, the + cold % helm. Perfect pk character that I never got to kill anyone with.

im talking about stuff i did over 10 years ago. i have no idea what the game is like now.

Yea, yea, back when people had grandfather swords and what not. Memories...

holy **** 10 years ago i cant believe i just typed that

Cold sorc was the one you could build yourself from the ground up, no need for 1337 gear or jsp help. Gloams and the stygian dolls or w/e are the reason I never did baal runs with sorceresses. I had a Hammerdin for him and uber tristram.

hammerdin = the protoss of diablo 2.

lol **** that, enigma ruined d2

So I take it most of you will jump right into D3 when it comes out? I sure hope there is some element of skill. I hate games that any dumb hack can pull off and make it seem like they're good.

I played D2 pre-LOD and played it seriously. I believe we are about the same age. I had a firewall sorc and I remember there DPS was absolutely incredible and the small Durance Level 2 maps that were there prior to 1.1. Durance 1.08 and 1.09 did have standard maps and if you memorized the 4 or 5 maps you would know where Durance 3 was at.

With that said, farming Meph would not bring you 10 dollars an hour as the items Meph dropped were not high enough level. I farmed the high ilvl monsters non-stop with ideal MF% for unid uniques(Which was around 750-900% if I remember correctly.

I mean outside of constantly creating ITH weapons could one be expected to make a decent profit in D2. 40 SOJs went for what....5 dollars on websites? I remember trying to do that stuff.

Meteorb was the best build post 1.1 patch(from scratch). You could MF run just about every high ilvl. You were limited in The Pit and The Cow Level if you were looking for high runes but you could do Meph and Andariel. Ideally most "poor" sorcs would run nightmare meph for better items they could wear(such as skullders and occy's). Andy is beast mode for Maras and perfect bk's.

Back when D2 was big on here a couple of us had beast mode Smiters that made ubers lololololol. I definitely miss us all crushing that.

It ****ed up dueling so much.

nerd talk ITT

god i miss playing.

i never sold SOJs. price was way deflated. i sold items which could be runed pretty often actually. a lot of people didnt sell socketed items, but there was a good demand for them.

i did this at around the same time i would buy UO gold for IRL $$ (10/1million usually), then take that gold to in-game auctions and buy items there (auction prices were deflated) and then flip the items for cash on ebay for an enormous profit. pocket a piece of that $$ and take the remainder to buy more gold and rinse and repeat. if i could sell the in-game item for like 8-9 mil gold but only $70 on ebay, i preferred to do that and then reuse the gold or sell some of it back to the gold sellers.

there were ways to make the $$, you just had to be very smart about where and when you converted the in-game equity to IRL cash.