Which brings up an interesting question.

How can people view JTV without *******? That site is a nightmare.

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my second noob Q (is there a thread for this?): how do i chronoboost multiple warpgates at once?

more like second tier BW players. i don't think we'll see any major transitions of top tier BWers until closer to the sc2 expansion maybe

flash and jaedong among the elite BWers are still raking in 6 figures regularly from endorsements and team contracts, honestly, i wouldn't switch to a relatively new scene either if i was them.

i don't see the sc2 scene taking over bw in korea for a long time, especially when there's a perception that bw is a better spectator sport, 1a deathball, etc. the bw scene is still going pretty strong in korea

that was a good read, probably one of the more interesting TL articles i bothered to click, and i never click those

the default hotkey for that is backspace, this centers the camera on each base you have

Slightly? The dad in those commercials couldn't be more toolish.

"I call them my starting five. BOOM!"

thanks for sharing, good read.

artosis called the article ignorant on twitter, curious to see him expand on that at some point

How long is it going to take for Brood War's competitive scene to die?

until the truly top pros can earn enough [not counting tournament winnings, but actual sponsors, remember this 80k-200k the very top players are making is salary pay outside of their winnings], otherwhise it won't happen. people have grown up knowing BW, its gone from an esport to an actual sport in Korea that alot of people have an in depth knowledge about. Its not easy to make something like that die. I also completely agree with that article, within a few months after transitioning the top BW players will be unbeatable. their mechanics have been refined by a much more unforgiving game especially macro wise, and they are the best RTS players ainec


tldr bisu fighting!

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/new...hange-program/

probably haven't been mentioned yet, but MLG and GSL are doing a crossover where players that place well in MLG will be shipped to code A (and even code S) and GSL players will get invites to MLG events.

nice to see some cooperation among leagues to expose the Korean talents in NA and foreign talents in Korea. and ofc this will make code A/S even more of a dogfight now

Idra dropped some good knowledge in response to the "elephant" article on today's SotG. He said the statistics on MC and Fruitdealer doing poorly in BW is a bit erroneous. MC showed a lot of promise so he was put up against the top players before he was ready hence the 1-9 record. Fruitdealer hated the practice regimen of the BW houses so he left.

On the topic of BW houses vs SC2 houses he agrees that BW houses are much more strict on practice but SC2 houses aren't slouches either.

No argument that Flash and Jaedong would do well in SC2 just like Nada and July but I don't think the skill disparity is as huge as the article would lead you to believe.

Artosis makes a ton of ridiculous statements about SC2 as if he is some expert/authority and pompously refuses to explain himself.

Watch his stream, he basically touts himself as the smartest mind the game has ever seen. (While losing game after game to mid level masters players)

i'm not sure I agree with the flash/jaedong skill disparity, although it may just be my fanboyism speaking. I truly believe that in a short amount of time that their RTS skills and abilities from broodwar would put them a large cut above any sc2 player playing the game now, simply because the manner with which they dominate is huge since BW, a game that has been played by so many more players for such a long time, has alot more refined gameplay and players yet they still manage to dominate the scene

Yeah, I think everyone else on SotG was ridiculously understating the practice regimens of SC2 houses. It probably stems from a recent interview with a korean (can't remember who, but I think it was someone from ST) where they said that practice in the house was "pretty relaxed". I think he probably meant in relation to BW houses, in which case almost anything is going to seem lax in comparison. I imagine players are still playing several hours a day, but the 12hrs/day typical of BW houses is just unnecessary for SC2 IMO, since there's not nearly as much mechanical refinement needed. I think, at that point, you're just wasting time you could have been spending devising new strategies.

Watching TLO Play and gotta say slow Mode is a nice option for these chats rooms. It's more like reading a conversation or even a forum. I don't know if they can adjust it or not, but I think something far less than TLO's (1:30) would be optimal, or maybe one which correlates with the number of ppl watching.

TLO playing zerg is pretty interesting... I didn't see any goal for his zvz except to just build a bunch of lings, more than his opponent, and just outmicro to get an advantage (never actually worked) and then building some roaches and micro really well... kinda like my protoss where i just want blink stalkers... in zvp he had 2 stalkers show up outside his exp very early and from then on he just made constant lings then got speed and won which I thought was cool and good. If you haven't seen, he listens to some really funny epic movie music that sounds like the 300 soundtrack, and I've been listening to it for like an hour while writing this.

He just did a build vs goody when he switched back to terran. It was a blueflame hellion/banshee attack and used the banshee to distract marines while he drops the main. No wonder why he uses T now, they're the most microable race. He just started a game where someone says, "TLO the alliner" in chat, and I think that person was very correct about TLO's game, but I really like his crazy 2base allins. I got to see him warming up to practice a 2 proxy-rax vs Idra at MLG Dallas, lol. Vs the "TLO is an alliner" guy TLO scouted that it was TVZ and close positions and he 2raxed and pulled every drone but also expo'd in his base, got forced back after killing a bunch of drones, pulled back and held the counter with 2 marines easily. Oh snap, it's really effective to micro vs zerg with marine/hellion/medivac if they just have lings and banelings bc you can just make too much **** chase your hellions around the marines, and if they pull off then they take shots from the hellions!

On another note I'm not up writing this because I'm drunk like I usually would be if I go on a rant, I got off work at 4 AM today. I cut myself bad today at work for the first time in my life, and it was a footlong knife and with the heavy end while chopping sundried tomatoes. I wrote all this without the use of my middle finger, my 'E' key and '3' key finger has the corner shaved off it. Fortunately it stayed connected so I still have it all. I'll have to rebind everything from my '2' key to '3'.

Of course he is an expert/authority. IDK who else would be moreso except team coaches or one of the few casters or Nestea. His knowledge about timings is probably not as high as some higher level players but that would be his only shortcoming. He's really good at knowing when/when not to attack, how to play maps, every matchup, etc, and a lot of general stuff like DPS. There is no knowledge restrictive to those player who can beat him. Artosis could create cutting edge builds if he studied timings (he coaches sixjax). Obviously you don't have to be good to be the smartest mind in SC2. He sort of touts himself as an intelligent sc2 player and other people as being not-so, but that's because that's the truth.

Bleh above where i wrote that TLO 2raxed and pulled every scv, that was a CC first build i think. He just built a command center then 2 raxd/pulled every drone vs a FE zerg in close positions and did a bunch of damage microing.

bnet down for anyone else?

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canada internet problem?

I agree although artosis isn't the best player, his insight and knowledge of the game is so huge i basically believe everything he says

what are some good tsl3 games/series vods to watch?

Boxer vs sen and mc vs thorzain were really good

boxer v sen was upsetting ill have to rewatch that to see what happened. thorzain v naniwa was very good.

MIA for a few days bc drinking has left me feeling like ****. fortunately i dont think im a diehard alcoholic and will b able to quit. i quit for 5 years once (im 24) and probably gonna do something like that again since the next day is always so terrible. particularly the morning. cant believe i wrote all that crud above the other day mustve been feeling pretty good to go on a rampage like that.

not drinking anymore for time being. getting into masters league as random and refining build orders as soon as i get back (#1 rank platinum now and never been diamond but been playing lots of them lately) also learning spanish so im more employable is going well. these are my goals, on paper.

This is probably an OOT question, but I'm going to ask here. It's a LC/Not SC2 related question. It's probably too long so read if you want.

Last weekend on Sunday my friend and I went to a Cleveland Indians game (3hr drive from where I live), which eventually got rained out. I bought the tickets through StubHub where the policy is that if the game gets rained out you get a complete refund. It turns out that the Indians are honoring the same tickets whenever the game is rescheduled so no refunds were issued. I'm basically stuck holding the tickets.

My friend and I went on Sunday because it was a day game, he had off work, and it was basically just an all day trip where we got home at a reasonable time at night.

We are guessing that the game will be rescheduled in late August, but it'll be either a Tuesday or Wednesday, a doubleheader, which doesn't fit the plans that good at all.

The plan was that I would buy the tickets, drive, and we would split the cost, so the total cost of the tickets and gas was something like $112, $56 each. He paid for parking, but I subtracted my half from the total.

He hasn't paid me yet as it's really not an issue. I know he'll pay me the money, no hurry. The thing is that I've already put up the money for the game and gas. I told him to pay me and then if he can't go in August (won't take a day off of work), I'll either try to resell the tickets or go with someone else and then give him back his half of the ticket money.

Today he calls me and asks me about it and then tells me that he'll just hold onto his money towards the ticket and then whenever I find someone or resell the tickets I'll just keep the money, basically meaning he doesn't have anything at risk.

I then told him to either tell me he's not going to go and I'm effectively buying the ticket from him, or that he might go and pay me the money for his half, but then I'm not going to accept that he says he's not going to go, doesn't pay me, and then in August decides to change his mind. He then says he's not going to go at all, basically nothing lost other than the gas money. So now I'm stuck holding the tickets until I figure out what I'm going to do. The game hasn't be rescheduled yet, afaik, and even if it is rescheduled until August, nobody is going to buy the tickets until shortly before the day of the game.

He just called me again 10 minutes ago to talk about something else, the issue of the tickets came up, and I told him that he's basically copping out now because he doesn't have anything at risk, but if he paid for everything it would be on him to figure out what to do with the tickets. I'm stuck with the holding cost right now because he basically sees it as not being his problem. He seems to think it's a problem to pay me then me give him money back whenever someone else goes or I end up selling the tickets back on StubHub.

So what's the final verdict here? Should I just eat the total cost and hold onto it (buy his ticket from him), or would you expect someone to pay you so they have some risk in this as well even if they don't plan on going again in late August?