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08-22-2010 , 10:00 AM
Btw I've also noticed that sometimes I see in the loading screen that we are equal, but ingame the guy tells me that I was a favorite from his pov. This + me never seeing myself being favorite in the loading screen has lead me to some conclusions.
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08-22-2010 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fistdantilus
This I know.

However, if I'm leading in points, winrate, and games played... what exactly are they measuring in the other metric to say that he's somehow favored over me?
your ranking.

there's a hidden ranking system that is used to match you up. you might play versus a gold level as platinum but that just means you are close in ranking. HE might be close to moving up or you moving down.
There's also an uncertainty aspect to rating that's why you can stay in a league for very long while crushing everyone. The system does not know where you belong so you don't move.
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08-22-2010 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Go QQ
Btw I've also noticed that sometimes I see in the loading screen that we are equal, but ingame the guy tells me that I was a favorite from his pov. This + me never seeing myself being favorite in the loading screen has lead me to some conclusions.
Yeah, this is something I noticed in beta too and it looks like it hasn't changed in retail. I think the system literally never shows you as a favorite; you are either shown to be the underdog or its an "even match".

I have no idea what their thinking behind any of this is. The ladder is essentially a complete joke IMO.
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08-22-2010 , 04:04 PM
I know that I've been a favorite.
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08-22-2010 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cueballmania
I know that I've been a favorite.
did the other player have no hands oooooooooooo

<3<3<3


ive lost a favored game and it hurts your points alot and you get alot less for winning So i'm pretty glad that for the most part you only get even matches
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08-23-2010 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fistdantilus
This I know.

However, if I'm leading in points, winrate, and games played... what exactly are they measuring in the other metric to say that he's somehow favored over me?
Maybe you waited for your bonus pool to build up so the games you won were not against favored opponents but your bonus pool makes it so your points are higher than his where he just played a bunch of games against harder opponents with no bonus pool.

Now there's also a good chance that Starcraft II's ladder is buggy as all get out.
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08-23-2010 , 12:53 AM
I've played 500 games already. =O My bonus pool tops out at like 9.

I've just given up on trying to understand their system.
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08-23-2010 , 01:03 AM
games not giving points? same thing happened last night around this time.

I did get pts when I played earlier today though.

oh well, I'm winning most 2v2s in silver league and don't mind easy play since I just play to relax. Longer it takes them to move me up the better.
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08-23-2010 , 03:25 AM
Yeah, I haven't gotten any points for my last 5-6 games.
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08-23-2010 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by thac
Yeah, I haven't gotten any points for my last 5-6 games.
On a maybe related maybe unrelated note, FFA games seem to now be awarding points.
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08-23-2010 , 09:11 AM
bit surprising there isnt a single post on the forum about weekends IEM semis/finals. definitely worth to check the vods and replays, some manner games by Tarson/Dimaga, ridciolous control by Morrow and more...

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08-23-2010 , 10:33 AM
Check the SC2 thread that isn't in this forum HorvatH.
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08-23-2010 , 10:35 AM
Gah, just crashed again so I gotta vent.

I have a macbook pro and it seems that whenever I press the button SC2 instacrashes.

Very annoying cause it's right next to the 1 button so it's very easy to accidentally mash it in the heat of battle.
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08-23-2010 , 10:37 AM
lol i feel embarassed as i even subscribed for that one but though is just died off when this forum was opened....
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08-24-2010 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfram
Gah, just crashed again so I gotta vent.

I have a macbook pro and it seems that whenever I press the button SC2 instacrashes.

Very annoying cause it's right next to the 1 button so it's very easy to accidentally mash it in the heat of battle.
There is a way to stop alt-tab and alt-f4 and maybe alt-ctrl-del when ingame in the options menu so I think they might have a way to stop similar keys from a mac.
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08-24-2010 , 03:04 PM
Anyone playing gosucoaching #10 right now? Just won my first round against a T on SoW. I feel good.
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08-25-2010 , 10:37 AM
platinummmmmm... working my way up there to diamond
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08-25-2010 , 11:09 AM
So, is there some 4th dimension out there where everyone is talking about how they're always favored/slightly favored?
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08-25-2010 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rageotones
So, is there some 4th dimension out there where everyone is talking about how they're always favored/slightly favored?
Are you kidding???
I'm in copper and never favored. I get like 22 points for a win and -1 for a loss.
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08-25-2010 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rageotones
So, is there some 4th dimension out there where everyone is talking about how they're always favored/slightly favored?
Its parallel universe not 4th dimension.
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08-25-2010 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by phillydilly
Are you kidding???
I'm in copper and never favored. I get like 22 points for a win and -1 for a loss.
They re-added copper league just for you?
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08-25-2010 , 06:48 PM
WTF the first guy in plat in sc2ranks is 56:0. How is that even possible?
http://sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/platinum/1
The second one is 49:0
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08-25-2010 , 06:50 PM
More than likely he's using some sort of drop hack.
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08-25-2010 , 11:49 PM
how big of a gap is there between the players in the top 200 when say a top 10 player would play a bottom 25 player from that list?
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08-26-2010 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Celery
how big of a gap is there between the players in the top 200 when say a top 10 player would play a bottom 25 player from that list?
I'd say odds would be like 9:1 in favor of top 10 guy.

Also holy crap I played way too much ****ing SC2 today -- I'm sick so I stayed home and my day was basically wake up, play SC2, eat in between, and that's all I did today.. Went from 40th gold to 8th plat (with bonus pool) in 1v1 and 27th diamond to 2nd in 2v2. Also finally got in some 4v4 games as well, which is a surprisingly fun mess around bracket.
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