I stand corrected in regards to HDR streaming. While the pro can put out HDR signals, it doesn't require HDR. It can broadcast a normal 4k picture which brings us back to my point. There is no noticeable difference between a $2 and a $60 hdmi cable. They are both capable of transmitting 4k content. To suggest the cable is the problem is wrong.

To state it's also on the manufacture doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The article I posted tested with two exact same models of TVs and one worked, one didn't. People are also reporting issues with a certain model And others reporting no issues with the same model. You really think it's an issue with the "handshake" when the same model of TV works for some and not others?

It's certainly a HDMI/ more likely HDCP handshake issue when setting it to HDCP 1.4 pretty much resolves all issues. Not excluding Sony from the shoddy implementation either, I should think they can fix it by backing off some tolerances in the firmware or whatever they need to do.

The cables / length are an issue for many of the problem reports. It needs a "Premium High Speed", different to a plain high speed. Not necessarily an expensive one, indeed an overpriced $60 gold-plated fancy one could be insufficient. It's like the difference in Cat 5 and Cat 5e Ethernet. The included cable is good, but short. This is pretty much the first time cable quality has become an issue, although it clearly isn't the only thing.

For PSVR, the improvements are primarily in clarity of image. Many VR games do not manage native resolution, the pro helps some to get there. For others that do manage good resolution, they can go higher (supersampling), basically the ultimate in AA techniques. It's not a mind blowing improvement, but it's certainly "nice to have".

Rez Infinite went from 1440x810 to the full 1920x1080 for it's rendering (I don't have this one, but imagine that makes it look a good bit nicer)

Batman and Rigs (I do have), these two implemented a form of foveated rendering on the base PS4. Graphics towards the edges of the view were rendered in a lower resolution, while the center is rendered at full sharpness. On the pro, they are sharp all over so you can move your eyes more rather than your head. I think they both increase AA quality also. Rigs especially, it's super clean on the Pro. Still a few stair-step jaggies noticeable, but nowhere near so much as before.


In traditional games, the Pro increases resolution / AA (depending on your TV) and framerate, sometimes dramatically. CoD:IW / Titanfall 2 looks incredible on the Pro. Super clean image, not a jaggy in sight. Battlefield 1 improves the resolution and doesn't drop from 60fps nearly so much as on the regular PS4.

If I could buy only one of the PSVR or Pro, I would buy the VR without question. Slightly muddied however given the discount for trading in the old model (I kept mine, will likely give it away to family). The PSVR is an "omg this amazing new experience!". The Pro is "ahh, this is slightly nicer that what I had before". Both together is obviously best, tho.

Thanks for the comment, Ill sleep on it for a bit, I don't even have a 4k television and would be doing it purely for the VR.

I don't have a 4K TV myself, so anything I say is of improvements on 1080p only.

Any must play games coming out by the end of the year? It seems the reviews are mixed on FF XV and the Last Gaurdian looks great but has awful sluggish controls and camera problems.

I see a couple of potential solid games for early next year, but am checking for something to play before the new GOW comes out.

Hadn't heard anything negative about Last Guardian, only that it's a slower paced game anyone expecting an action centric title may be taken off guard. It's more like an adventure puzzle game. The few early reviews were all great, we'll have a bunch of reviews coming out in the next few weeks though.

Resident Evil 7 is out in January. Looks like it's definitely something Capcom has put a ton of effort into, looks to be back to its horror roots. It's in first person mode and was made specifically with VR in mind but you can play it non-VR too as I likely would. I tend not to like first person games too much, but for VR that makes total sense.

Hopefully FF XV doesn't blow... got the $100 version from Best Buy so I can get all the DLC. Never done that before.

Seriously considering for the first time trading in my PS4 for an XBONE. I really want to play Gears 4 and Halo Wars 2, plus the free PS Plus games have sucked the last six months or so. Does PS really have any exclusive games that I should care about coming up?

Horizon

Whats the best game some of you have that you enjoy playing with two players (with a friend/sibbling) most ? Im looking for something simple for ****ing around.

Minecraft
Don't starve together, though that's more complicated

lol Watchdogs 2 with the rendered vag on the prostitutes.

Broforce is a good one for that

diablo 3, alienation, hell divers, salt & sanctuary, rayman, lara croft temple of osiris, magicka 2

Rocket League

Just put in my preorder for FFXV. I'm hype. Hopefully it runs ok on the regular PS4.

Just survived the Black Friday crush at Walmart to snag a bunch of games.

Brought my 16 yr old son to snag the good ones.

Is Friday?

Black Friday sales stated at 6pm on Thursday at Walmart.

Ugh

Merica

Can somebody tell me the difference between the playstation slim 500gb and the playstation pro? Gonna buy one tomorrow just curious what is the difference.

Headline features - the pro has over twice the GPU (graphics power), double the storage space, slightly improved CPU and an extra USB port at the back.