AOC are well known.

Where are you seeing that monitor that cheap btw?

I use 27"s but for FPS I'm convinced 24" is better, too much screen to actually see everything.

G-sync adds that premium that you’re seeing. Thank Nvidia.

Trust your eyes and your eyes only. Test them out in person, go with whatever you prefer. There is no substitute for personal experience when it comes to something you’ll be staring at for hours on end, day after day.

Hell, I think I spent more time picking out my last monitor than my last car. I certainly use one more than the other.

One on ebay for £350 right now ex display model probs can get it a bit cheaper too. I went with a Asus 27" in the end got it for around £350. I think I prefer a 24 inch I just don't like a doing what I do on a 24 inch monitor a 27 inch display is going to help me out a ton, few years back I wouldn't of sacrificed it. I don't play a ton of games like I used to but have spells here and there.

As of last night, even with the massive drop in bitcoin prices and mining only maybe 75% of the time, and paying 0.12 USD/kWh, my 1080 ti has more than paid for itself. It's probably not worth it now though. Last couple months I've only been making like 30 a month, which is probably like 15 after electricity. Most of the profits were generated before BTC prices crashed.

Very happy considering how much enjoyment I got out of the card.

That's awesome. I read some other gaming forums, and I would get so tilted there were legions of angry posters bemoaning "****ing bitminers" and whinging how they have to stick with their 970 or worse because prices are so high, and they just wouldn't be convinced price was irrelevant and they could have any card effectively for free if they can put up the initial amount. Just a bunch of morons with no concept of +EV out there in the real world, lol

Ray tracing looks amazing but I am also 95% sure we should wait for 3080 or 2180 or whatever nVidia calls next gen to make it worthwhile.

Ray Tracing in VR sounds amazing.

I also need some help scoping out a new monitor. Just built a new PC, running a RX580 4gb Sapphire Nitro. Not super picky, likely will run at 1080p. I suppose my only requirements are Free-Sync and its main uses will be gaming and casual browsing/video.

I have ran a pair of Dell U2212HM 21.5" monitors for years on my old rig. I'd love to keep with a two monitor setup as I'm so used to it at home & work and it's so convenient for browsing while gaming, but don't want to spend a ton on two monitors and I'm OCD about having the monitors match. So I'd be open to using one bigger one. Do a lot of modern monitors do picture-in-picture or anything like that?

Suggestions? Go IPS or TN? Fastest response time as possible or is a 5ms IPS good enough? I supposed my budget is up to about $500 if I'm going with a single monitor.

The consensus is it doesn't really matter for gaming (except for the world class players where 1ms vs. 5ms actually matters, even then some of them use IPS panels) and IPS panels look significantly better so most people (myself included) that do anything other than competitive gaming opt for IPS.

Super fast 1080p TN gaming panels have become a bit of a niche product for the ultra competitive gamers who are playing on pretty low graphics settings to maximize FPS and visibility.

how big are you looking? the gtg ms has been dead for a long time, except as said above. it was only an issue in the beginning of lcds where 16+ms gtg would ghost like crazy.

2x24" can be under 150 each. 27-32 easily under 300/ea id guess. i have a 24 and 32 and i prefer the mismatch cause i use the bigger one for tv/videos/etc but 2x32 would be pretty big. dont get anything less than 1080p tho for sure

Probably minimum 24" if I went with two, minimum 27 if I went with one.

Amazon.ca has Asus VG245H 24" for $199. 75Hz 1ms TN panel with FreeSync seems like a good deal.

I just don't want to regret going from IPS to TN.

so free sync and g sync are just a branch off of the old v sync basically? when lcds couldnt keep up with old engines usual refresh rate? i dont play new games but between d3, sc2, and cs1.6 (thats 17 years old) i notice zero tearing or anything with a 75hz lcd. and i would if it existed.

i would definitely get 2 monitors, ill never go back to just one. i think you're being overly picky tbh, unless reviews vastly switch your mind, they should all be more than enough imo.

My play would be to get a 27" 1440p flanked by the two old 21.5".

Yea this is probably very true. PogChamp, now we're talking

I'm slightly sad that Bitcoin isn't still super high so I could get another subsidized RTX 2080 Ti.

Guess I am stuck with the 1080ti Nicehash paid for for a while.

didnt you bink large already..? any reswing in coins would cover a card multiple times over

I didn't really "bink" it. When I bought bitcoin was already high and I figured as long as I got 3 months of good prices I'd recover half of the card. It turned out the card was basically paid for in like 6 months before Bitcoin crashed down to ~7k.

It's not just Bitcoin prices dropped. It's also the Ethereum and whatever Nicehash mines, dropped in price in terms of Bitcoins so I went from making ~100/month when Bitcoin was high around 12k to 14k (? I wasn't tracking that closely) to just $15/month for the last few months.

If Bitcoin spikes again and a new cryptocurrency shows up so the monthly of my GTX 1080 goes up to close to 100 again I'd be willing to buy an RTX 2080 TI and just hope the prices hold. As things stand, I don't think I'll get RTX 2080 TI... probably at all. I just don't need it.

i meant pre bitcoin, thought you made a lil pile. and wouldnt mining in the downswing just come back 2x+ if it reswings? sort of a speculating cost but %of coin can still recoup the price later

I might as well just buy bitcoins if I am gonna rely on a downswing.

That's what my 1080TI has been doing recently. Even though I currently live in an all utilities included apartment, it's -EV to mine on a 2080TI now I am pretty sure.

Can someone knowledgeable look at this PC build and tell me if there's anything you'd recommend changing?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VsKwCb

The only thing missing from this list is cooling, which is planned to be water-cooling for CPU/GPU from EKWB.

This will be used mainly for gaming, and I want it to be as future-proof and great as possible (it is replacing an old Sandy-Bridge-era system). I'm obviously not averse to spending lots of money on this, but I also don't want to just buy an expensive component for no reason. Thanks!

That looks pretty solid. I think the most important parts would be the 8700K and the 2080 Ti.

You might want a second hard drive but I like the 1TB M2, you may not need any more space.

I would guess that the only thing you may need to upgrade at some point will be the video card in 3 or 4 years.

1080ti is probably enough to last until ray tracing is mainstream with acceptable performance.

Ditch the 4k monitor. I couldn't get close to 144fps in Overwatch on 1080ti with all the graphics settings cranked up at 4k. 2080ti seems to be about 30% faster but that makes it still inadequate for 144hz 4k gaming (unless you playing like CSGO). A lot of games also have weird UI scaling with 4k screens.

Basically current situation is this: 2080ti isn't enough for 4k. 1080ti is more than enough for 1440p for a few years at least to get us into the ray tracing era (if it ever comes.)

For CPU, I would get wait to get 8 core. Games will get really good at using 6 cores soon (thanks to AMD and Intel putting 6 cores into laptops now). Having extra 2 cores will be very helpful in day to day use just alt tabbing, streaming, or just playing YouTube in background. If it's not urgent, just wait for next gen (expect 6 months) because current crop of chips are all pretty much crippled by Spectre and people are expecting a bigger than usual jump in next gen (but not as big as Intel's reaction to AMD Ryzen).

16 gig is enough for now since it's entirely pain free to upgrade later.

Like grizy said, a 1080ti is perfectly fine for gaming and will be for another 3-4 years minimum.

A 2080ti sounds like a good idea but gaming is still 2-3 years away from using it to its fullest potential and by then a couple more generations of cards will be out.

That monitor is nice but not necessary unless you're a professional gamer. A 144hz 1440p monitor is more than enough for 99% of gamers.

I have a 1tb ssd for everything but I've been thinking about getting a smaller one just for the OS.

why is that? just in case of the other bricking or does it actually load faster on a smaller drive? hdds were the opposite and a denser drive would load faster and i thought ssd removed that "issue"

I've had several people that are a lot more knowledgeable about PC stuff than I am tell me that it's better to have the OS on a separate ssd.

I haven't really researched it yet but I have read that it's better to get something like a 250gb than a 120gb for that purpose. I read that it's harder(slower) on the ssd to load the OS from a smaller ssd b/c of something about the extra free space making it perform better. I'm not really sure if that's accurate so that's why I'm going to check into it before buying anything.

I don't have any problems with my set up. I can reboot my PC and be gaming in less than 1 minute but I feel like having the OS and gaming stuff on separate ssd's would make things a little easier on my PC.