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09-26-2018 , 01:52 AM
Small SSDs are slower, or at least that was the case with Samsung 830 / 850s a few years ago. Less flash chips it can parallel read/write from or something like that. I can def see a benefit from having the OS doing it's thing on it's own channel not interfering with game-loading or whatever work files being processed.

I disagree with the above 1080Ti favouring and would def go for a 2080Ti if the money isn't a huge deal as stated. It's considerably faster at traditional rasterisation in the tests I've read, not even counting the potentially massive benefits from DLSS and RTX.

I also find it a bit tricky recommending a 6 core Intel with regards to "futureproofing" (pretty sure you will be able to drop a 16 core 7nm Ryzen 3 in to most AM4 boards in 2020, you know that isn't happening with an Intel system). The 8700K does have a slight edge on today's games right now however.

That's a very expensive monitor and idk if I could justify that, considering you could get a nice 1440p AND an LG55B7 OLED for the same money on Black Friday with any luck. Personally I'd hate to use Windows on a 4k at 27", I can do 100% scaling at 1440p just fine but 4k would be impossible.
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09-26-2018 , 08:50 AM
Even the slowest SSDs are fast enough you won't notice loading times much in gaming context.

The super fast SSDs are only really relevant for video professionals regularly moving huge files.

I do use a 32" 4k monitor at 125% scaling but it's utterly unsuitable for gaming. 1440p 100+hz g-sync is where the sweet spot is at now for gaming.
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09-26-2018 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by I_AM_EVIL
I don't have any problems with my set up. I can reboot my PC and be gaming in less than 1 minute but I feel like having the OS and gaming stuff on separate ssd's would make things a little easier on my PC.
It's not broken. Don't try to fix it.
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09-26-2018 , 01:27 PM
Nice rig, I just built mine. Will post when not in mobile but it pales in comparison lol.
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09-26-2018 , 03:54 PM
Thanks everyone for the thoughts. I ordered as-is (except for laying out $30 for an i7-8086k (I totally hate myself for this)), and will report back. Mainly worried about the monitor not being worth it, but I have high hopes.
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09-28-2018 , 04:38 AM
if im reading that right; without the monitor thats still a ~$2700 setup? o.O

and ive been out of the game for a while, but how is that monitor worth 2k?
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09-28-2018 , 01:29 PM
You're probably going to want a HDD also. 1TB doesn't go far in the world of 100GB games and 50+ GB Windows installs.
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10-02-2018 , 02:40 PM
And 9900k gets leaked. Even at 600 it's probably the sweet spot for enthusiasts dumping ~3k on desktops.
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10-03-2018 , 05:20 PM
https://www.techspot.com/article/1712-nvidia-dlss/

Love the screenshots that look exactly identical on my monitor.
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10-05-2018 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
And 9900k gets leaked. Even at 600 it's probably the sweet spot for enthusiasts dumping ~3k on desktops.
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10-05-2018 , 01:20 PM
Blame AMD. Intel feels the pressure. 6-8 core chips aren’t benchmarking that well but in real world use cases where users are running multiple programs at the same time, 6-8 cores are doing very well. With 6 cores becoming standard for gaming laptops, it’s a lock developers will find a way to use 6 cores... and that makes the two extra cores very useful if you are going to multitask at all while gaming.

I am speaking from personal experience.
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10-06-2018 , 09:34 AM
Down to 15 a month on the 1080ti.
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10-06-2018 , 02:04 PM
So not sure where else to put this but basically the September windows updates were turning my lowend rig into a total potato. Upon researching there seem to be a lot of mysterious disk usage issues related to windows search and paging features that 'optimize windows performance by predicting the applications that you might want to use' while you are midway through a PUGB or DOTA game, you know, just incase you wanted to open a spreadsheet and balance your checkbook while you are owning noobs. Upon search related to these problems, even high end rigs with like 32gb of ram do not seem to be left out of these issues. The common thread is Windows 10 and the September updates.

The best work around I could come up with is to manually uninstall the updates in add remove programs and then block them with the windows 'hide or show updates' tool which has to be manually downloaded from the Microsoft website. Thanks Microsoft!

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...lling-in-windo
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10-07-2018 , 01:01 PM
Yup, uninstalled Sept updates and all my disk paging issues went away.
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10-07-2018 , 02:00 PM
Nope, its back.
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10-07-2018 , 03:34 PM
Unsure, but mbe related to indexing too much crap. TBD, out of town for a while so I guess we will relive this computer drama some more next week.
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10-07-2018 , 04:41 PM
Isn't turning off indexing like step #1 on a new Windows install?
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10-09-2018 , 01:02 PM
My brother is looking for a PC not for gaming purposes but for light editing on his youtube channel and I think gaming and video kinda go hand in hand.

I say he does light editing but he is still in the "learning phase" so this could increase. He does work out videos, Literally all he does is stand the camera in front of him and then does his work out. The camera never moves.

So I think the amount of editing he needs to do is a little big of cutting here and there. No crazy edits or anything like that.

I don't have a clue when it comes to video editing so I was thinking of something like...

I5 8600k (Maybe even less, but I have this processor and its really good for me)
16gb RAM (Fairly quick speeds)
SSD + HDD
Video Card??? If he needs one. He won't be playing any games, If that makes a difference.

We can always upgrade later if he needs to as well.
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10-17-2018 , 02:49 PM
scrap the above ^^^

If any of you play or have any experience with the following games can you recommend a decent rig set up, I've never played or watched these games so I have no idea what to recommend to the person asking me.

Games are... mtg:arena, artifact and rocket league
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10-17-2018 , 03:23 PM
All those games have low requirements. Any computer made in the last 5 years can run them no problem. Basically you would have to be actively sabotaging your build to not end up with a computer that could run those games. If you take a potato, wrap it in tinfoil, and then shove your monitor cord into it I'm pretty sure you could still play those games on low settings.

Last edited by Daer; 10-17-2018 at 03:28 PM.
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10-17-2018 , 08:09 PM
Better make it a sweet potato to be safe.
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10-18-2018 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Daer
Isn't turning off indexing like step #1 on a new Windows install?
I think uninstalling windows is step 1. Seems to be a perfect storm of windows creating restore point after updating windows while doing other stuff and windows defender using the rest of the disk (probably scanning the update its downloading?). Seems only stable versions of windows are end of life. I can't wait until most games are html5 so I can move off to linux. Whatever 5% of useful features come with whatever new version of windows come at the cost of 200% extra overhead and 25% of 'features' that do not work and render the computer useless.
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10-19-2018 , 11:36 AM
Wine or Steam + Linux imo
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10-19-2018 , 02:02 PM
You may have seen Valve did some bug moves for Linux gaming lately, dxvk and Proton (a wine fork with a ton of patches) - huge chunk of wingames officially supported now on linux steam client with more being added fast.
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