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Old 05-07-2018, 07:01 PM   #3801
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Re: Overwatch (New Blizzard Franchise - FPS )

I've thought a lot about this and I think I know the solution.

Blizzard needs to implement a party queue, where there is some sort of match-making process where you end up as a group of 6 and then you queue.

It could be something like you see which of 3 maps it could be, or maybe gametype, and you get in a group of 6 without showing gamertags and everyone chooses the role you want to play. You can skip the lobby/people can vote you out/ something to juggle until you get a competent team comp. Maybe primary and secondary like Tank/Dps, and people can hover and see your time played like they can now. Make it semi anonymous and don't pretend it will be anonymous at all at the highest level but who cares.

If you choose a hero in lobby and then change when the game starts as a troll/thrower, that's trivial to detect and ban accordingly if people report you and there is history. Bans should be WAY more frequent and impactful.

The end result would be a team of 6 vs a team of 6 in every single game.

I think just lumping people into a game the way it is now is incredibly lazy and has resulted in a horrible experience. It needs more work and more sophistication.
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Old 05-08-2018, 02:12 AM   #3802
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Re: Overwatch (New Blizzard Franchise - FPS )

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Definitely. And, the reddit/twitch hive mind declaring she's meta atm (not to suggest that's wrong).



I still have yet to play a game of competitive this season and am fine with that. Unfortunately, though, QP and FFA have been less fun for me than they used to be, FFA because of all the Brigs and Moiras making it difficult to have fun and/or succeed playing Genji and Tracer. Brig has kind of ruined the game for me. I feel like it was in a very good place towards the end of last season and now it's...not.
well I'm glad I picked up on it because it's definitely a thing right now. People picking widow and the team chat instantly not going WTF BBQ ROFL OMG OMG SWITCH OFF PLZ is refreshing at least. People should play whatever the **** they want unless it's really, really obvious they suck at whatever they picked.

I think maybe she's meta because this is the worst tank meta this game has ever seen and she can counter hanzo pretty hard
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:40 AM   #3803
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brigitte is busted as all ****.

she just cannot die. her damage output is too high. her CC is ridiculous. she can 1v1 any hero in the game. she can function as all 3 roles at once.
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Old 05-10-2018, 11:24 AM   #3804
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Re: Overwatch (New Blizzard Franchise - FPS )

She doesn't really do much damage. It's her stuns and self-healing that make her tough.

And she can't be all three roles. She's not a DPS and she's not a front-line tank. She's a support that can serve as an off-tank, but an off-tank that is better suited to be in the mid-back lines, rather than leading the charge.
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:31 PM   #3805
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her damage is ridiculous:

her flail does 35 dmg per .6 seconds. can strike multiple enemies.

70 damage whip. 50 damage shield bash.

2 flails + bash into whip does 190 damage. so the most of the cast is at 10 health in a little over 1.2 seconds.

plus the stun. PLUS THE STUN.

it's absurd. there's basically no reason to play a backline flanker if there's a brigitte. tanks are basically toast once they get stunned.
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:25 PM   #3806
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Re: Overwatch (New Blizzard Franchise - FPS )

Problems are a) people don't know how to counter her (hint: shoot shield) and b) she counters some people particularly well and dps players are generally stubborn.
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:02 PM   #3807
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Re: Overwatch (New Blizzard Franchise - FPS )

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Problems are a) people don't know how to counter her (hint: shoot shield) and b) she counters some people particularly well and dps players are generally stubborn.
her shield is relatively small area wise, and shes quick as a character, so she can hide behind corners or other barriers if her shield gets low.

if it were shoottheshield 4head level easy, top 500 players wouldn't be getting facerolled. unless you think they overlooked that.

if she's even moderately healed, to take her down takes 250 health + 600 shield + 80 health passive every 6.5 seconds + say 50-200 other healing from a support + any armor she might have from her ult while she's displacing you with her M1, stunning you every 5 seconds, and using a knockback every 4 seconds.

and you have to yanno, land the shots and not miss. her hitbox isn't huge. while she's beating your face in and her team is similarly not standing there with their thumbs up their asses.

its ****ing hard. she's really busted.
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:00 PM   #3808
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Sounds like a job for Bastion!
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:01 PM   #3809
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Blizzard said they wanted ppl to be able to change picks and roles mid game, several times if need be, to counter so there is a close to 0 chance for a class queue system.

I haven't played in a long, long time. Thinking of switching to PC coming from PS4.
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:49 AM   #3810
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Definitely switch to pc from any console.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:01 PM   #3811
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had a pretty gross long range quad kill the other night with widow. Actually have had a bunch of these lately but this was the only one I saved -



my flick is getting way better. If I go widow in games I usually win now. She's much better on attack for obvious reasons - picks are more devastating to a defending team. But on control maps and a few defense maps I can hang with her. I try to tilt the other team into spending all their time diving on me, which is usually what happens, then I just switch to some dva counter. been getting accused of aimbotting and smurfing a lot lately which makes me happy. I'm soooooo happy to be playing her again.

my scoped accuracy is sitting around 70-80% now and i regularly get 15+ crits a game. I'm out dpsing my soldier in most games now.
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Old 05-20-2018, 12:35 PM   #3812
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Re: Overwatch (New Blizzard Franchise - FPS )

My rating is soooo low (sub 1k) now that I always get it will take a long time to find a proper match.

This is what happens when you play during law school finals and your heart isn't in it at all... and you suck to begin with, and you only play Hanzo.
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